So I have two Thai plants that are exhibiting hermi trates should I just get rid of them or let them flower? I have a few other strains, I don’t want cross pollination especially if the hermi will affect future generations if I went that route I am just trying to get some good quality buds so in my mind I think I should kill them off it just sucks putting this much time in first time ever having hermaphrodite’s in my garden and of course this is my second attempt with landrace genetics. I will definitely be doing some reading about this subject more when I have a day off from work. Just feeling a little bit let down by these two plants. Damn well I guess I will try more seeds next time I was really stoked to have a bunch of Thai weed to share and blaze with my friends. I stil have one that’s staying a lady I also have an afpak that’s a girl
This is always a complicated subject, because there is a binary answer and also a “grey” area one.
Let’s polarize and vulgarize in two tribes to make it simple :
Case 01 : The line is herm-prone
Herms have to be, in this case, considered as a suppressive phenomenon that have to be dialed just like any other “bad trait” you want to get rid of : pest or disease weakness, lack of potency etc …
The goal is to know what is carrying the herms and their dynamics, even simply without mapping the traits : nice flavors in cones, apparent yield, hard hitting or not …
I don’t worked much with asian lines but in general you quickly find in landrace states a pattern with these herms : their terps that can become exotic trough the monoecious expression. Just an example.
So in this case you have a plan :
1 : Getting rid of herms brutally lead to the disparition of fancy terps of the line VS potency & reliability.
2 : If you can’t go ahead brutally and to gain time … you have to do it the soft way. Creating a line for the potency/reliability (flowers production) AND a “herm line” that you work to preserve the fancy terp expression from the genetic funnel.
Making herms an expression to eliminate is by definition how we obtained cannabis, don’t get me wrong. But the job isn’t binary sometimes with the drastic increase of unstable lines since two decades. Most of the time you have to work the modern release like you will work a landrace, on sexual stability.
I hope you will get inspiration ;o)
Interesting thread.
I will continue killing all hermies as I find them
Life’s too short to fart around with defective genetics. Hermies happen but the overall genepool is helped more than harmed, by culling them.
Some of the best edibiles we ever made was from a huge hermied plant. It was about the 5th week of flower, and I had visited it, for about 7-10 days, before hand.
I could not bring myself to compost it out back. My loupe showed me almost no cloudy trichomes, so I was very skeptical of it being useful as edibles, I was very wrong about that.
I cut off all the branches, hung and dried them out, did an ugly rip n strip, then stuffed it all into my freezer.
This was also before my wife cancer had been declared in remission, anything I grew, I was going to, hell had to, use for her.
It provided us with material for a few years, to make oil, butter, tinctures with and all of them, gave her the same relief that full cycled plants gave us.
Maybe we have been composting excellent medical values, for the head bash stash?
Old topic reply but ive had time to experiment and run a couple control scenarios but speaking of red light i just want to put this out there i got a couple 730nm red light bars for my flower tent and it seems to me that some strains love to herm out with that extra red light not even at long cycles i only do 15 min light at end of light cycle each night to put them to sleep(Emerson effect).So far the pink lemonade and the Biker romulan are prime candidates to herm under the extra red light the UBC chemo and the Jacalyn handled it no problem.Some Cultivars are prone to pop balls in extra red light so be careful with those bars and watch your lowers for pollen sacs
Because you’re worried about cross-pollination, I would chop. But if you get good smoke and want to re-run a clone, I’ve done that in the past a couple of times and didn’t get herms with the clones. (Some have reported opposite experiences.)
Also, herming IS a natural strategy by the plant, and if herm events only result in a few seeds they don’t bother me, personally. Sometimes it’s like finding a present! Once they get above a couple seeds per bud it starts to get disgusting pretty quickly though.
I went ahead and yanked them out of the garden
I don’t want to risk them pollinating everything else I have one Thai plant left in my garden she’s staying the course for now but I’m going to keep an extra eye on her just to make sure.
@Madhillbomber2419 The type of hermie really matters. Its everything. Where were you seeing the balls? On the mainstem remove them, keep vigilant and move on. A couple at the base of the buds on main beams? Remove them, stay vigilant and move on. Mixed male female flowers? Kill it. True hermie.
To help avoid hermies hunting raw landrace stock, use soil in your mix. It doesn’t have to be all soil…but some is great. That’s what the plants are used to growing in. We are already Taking them from their native climate, and then in many cases growing them under a light instead of under the sun, and then also pulling them out of their native soil and growing them unnaturally in soiless, and restricting the roots to a small area with walls. Anything that can be done to help limit the number of new things the plants will experience will increase your odds of keeping a landrace stable. Good luck with that last Thai plant. Hope she stays stable for you. Don’t give up on landraces😁
My current medium is a mix of Coco coir and organic potting soil I am using the Mother Earth brand for the soil and the coco coir is from Canna. The hermi’s in question were showing it mixed together with the female pre flowers. I should take a picture of the plants I’m asking about I yanked them two days ago but they are just sitting in my living room. I could have just tossed them out but living in an apartment complex makes things more complicated. So tonight when I get home I’ll take a couple of pictures and post them.
Sorry for not posting when I said it’s been a busy week so far, I think one is actually just a boy the other was a hermie I tossed them out last night because I have an inspection today.
Yup. Straight up male there. Sorry it took me so long to chime in. Harvest time lately @Madhillbomber2419