Hey, do you have seeds of the Malana/Kashmir cross? I have plenty to send you. I haven’t even shucked them yet. The buds all went into a walmart bag and tied in a knot. So, I have them from Kash mom and Malana mom. Let me know.
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This family company is awesome. Papaver somniferum is what you want. They come in orange and a bunch of other gorgeous color options.
As far as I know they are legal to grow across the US. It becomes a illegal if you cut the pods like you were trying to harvest opium. I’ll make a note to PM you later with the recipe✌️
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Eat hash oil. About a rice grain worth. Works better than morphine for pain. I had some molars pulled and only used hash oil for pain. Stopped it completely
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I don’t but would love some. Anybody growing some out this year?
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I don’t take that stuff.
I heard Malana is a good medicinal one. I tried growin it this year , but both were male… no room to keep to collect pollen…
I bet those are good to work with for meds! 
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I use creams and other things. I’ll go to the horse doctor if I need to. I got Screamin toast on it right now. I have butter. Anti-inflammatories are the worst
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So around late-mid uh, 2020, I started a new job and it was hard on my hands. A buddy I knew had a bag of white widow and gave it to me. I looked it up just now and
it can help with the pain. I also recommend the creams for sure if they can help penetrate or soothe the area, like with hands or elbows or knees.
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With hash oil I went to bed with tears in my eyes and woke up laughing. There is nothing else I have found that works nearly as well except painkillers when you first start taking them. Of course they are a dead-end road and it never ends well
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I target strains. Thanks for sharing
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I could never EVER recommend kratom. I’d say think twice before ever even trying this.
A lot of people have told me quitting their kratom habit was like quitting drinking coffee. I’m not here to discount their story. I believe them when they say that.
Let me tell you about my story. I know it’s a long one, but if you are currenlty using kratom, or are thinking about using it, than please do read this, because it might just save you from a very bad outcome. I’m not a single case in how my body reacted to kratom, and I think anyone’s body can be triggered into giving a different reaction than what is “standard”.
THERE IS A TL;DR TOWARDS THE BOTTOM FOR THOSE NOT WILING TO READ AS MUCH
I have one of the most severe forms of what you may know as restless legs syndrome.
It’s basically just physical restlessness, also known as Akathisia, but only with a circadian rythm to it, and for most people it’s focused mostly in the legs, hence the name restless legs.
The form I have, in it’s full specification, is called malignant refractory restless body syndrome. Now, “malignant” is a term not easily thrown around in the medical community. It’s usually reserved for deadly outcome diseases. Here, it is used because it gets worse over time, and when it gets worse a lot, it’s called augmentation, and when that happens, people often end up wanting to kill themselves just to rid themselves of the unrest.
That’s right, it’s THAT bad. Not kidding. It really is. They might as well could have called it “Welcome to hell”, would have been just as fitting. There are in fact multiple reports of people trying to kill themselves as a result of having this disease, be it non-circadian akathisia, or restless body syndrome, even when it’s just a mere symptom of a medication that is otherwise beneificial to the person.
Now, in the beginning, idiopathic restless legs (“idiopathic” is when the disease is part of you vs. “secondary” which is side-effect of some treatment or other disease like renal ones or diabetes) is basically just having wiggly legs as a kid, not sitting still, and clapping your knees together, without noticing any unpleasant unrest. The unrest starts as it turns into a disease, but the symptoms are usually present well before, noticeably so for those in the family who already have more pronounced forms and recognize the patterns in their often younger kin.
I used to smoke cigarettes and nicotine helps the wretching unrest dissipate, so when I quit smoking tobacco, my body felt like the monster from Alien vs Predator was about to burst out of my chest, sort of. Not in a painly form, but in unrest/distress form. In fact, because the restlessness turned into a disease during the years I was smoking cigarettes, for a very long time I thought my symptoms to be just my nicotine dependence rearing it’s ugly head.
Anyway, a couple weeks before I quit tobacco I had a neurological mishap where it looked like I had an epileptic attack, so I had to get a checkup by a neurologist. He asked me to do an EEG and after that, a sleep-deprived EEG. And that’s where things went wrong.
The neurologist’s provocations to my nervous system (cause that’s what a sleep deprived EEG is, they stress out your nervous system to elicit an attack of sorts) augmented my disease almost instantly, and guess what? He almost laughed about it in my face when I saw him a week later (only his assistant was present during the sleep depr EEG, FFS!), making it out to be a small minor hick-up, yet proceeding to offer me any of 5 types of meds reserved for RLS and even Parkinson’s disease, telling me he’d let me try any one of them to help me out as they could maybe help my condition. Layed them right in front of me on the table, up for grabs and waited for my “choice”. But me being me, I had already looked into those meds more than any neurologist likes you to, and those parkinson meds, THEY DON’T FIX YOU. They all make you dependant on a med that gives you one bad side-effect after the other, increasing your daily load of meds every year until you can no longer even bear to keep on living.
Parkinson and RLS suck, but sadly, the meds they use for it suck even more. Not in the beginning, but in the end, they do. So you exchange half of one symptom for a series more. Not a good deal if you ask me.
Maybe you can imagine how furious I was as I sat there, unable to even sit still for as much as 2 seconds, being smiled at by that dumbfuck slick looking motherfucker who is even going to bill me for this bullshit, clapping my legs together constantly and wavering my body back and forth in a constant agony. Because that’s what it is. Agon means conflict. It’s a conflict in your body and it is tearing you apart and all you can do is try to shake it off, but when it’s that bad, that doesn’t work anymore. But you can’t sit still either…
Back to the term refractory, that means it does not respond to any of the standard medications, meaning all those meds that neurologist just offered me, that I declined, would have made it even worse to begin with, which my other doctor found out very carefully so I wouldn’t be sent into a land of horror. Not even Mucuna Pruriens, a natural bean that works in a similar but gentler way, could help me, as it increased my symptoms by about 50% just half an hour after taking it.
That doctor, the careful one, is a godsend for his very thorough and profound understanding of the human body and mind. He still treats patients 7 days a week 16 hrs a day most days at his 68 years of age if I’m not mistaken, and he always does so with a smile and a joke, and even often gets cancer patients that have been sent home to die back on their feet and running again. BUT, even he couldn’t help me anymore when I could barely walk anymore because of the unrest that would strike my legs and back and cause uncontrollable convulsions as I tried to walk. All he could tell me was to try weed, which he knew I already did, but which he was never fond of before that time (I’ve been less than healthy with my weed use too, and he knows that), and a bad joke that didn’t land too well.
TL;DR: I have a severe form of restless legs that was augmented by a neurologial examination during a time my body was already under stress from quitting nicotine.
So I started taking kratom. I had read that kratom helped people with restless legs, and how was that surprising when I knew restless body was a symptom of opiate withdrawal.
But I didn’t know that kratom would give me an ever so small rebound increase in restlessness symptoms, barely noticeable at first, but after about 4 to 6 months of taking kratom daily several times a day, I was struggling to get enough capsules capped up to keep my now even more augmented symptoms at bay. In the end, I was sitting behind my capsule machine violently trembling and shaking, trying to cap up enough capsules just for one dose so I could get 30 capules into my mouth and swallow them all in 1 single giant gulp (yes, that’s right, in the end 30 “00” size caps was just 1 dose, and it only gave me 3 hours of relief by then). That migth sound horrifying, but those 3 hours of rest were certainly not. I had to endure feeling queasy and constipated most of the time and I didn’t really like the intoxicating effects too much, but between capping up and taking a shit, it still beat feeling the restlessness by miles and miles.
But my toilet could never swallow my turds anymore without forcing them through with the plunger. My bowels would hurt every time I tried to take a dump, and when I succeeded my rectum would often bleed from the strain, not to mention the external hemorrhoids that I’d regularly get from the pressure needed to push one out.
So I had to quit. Going on like this was absolutely futile. So I gathered all I could found on opiate and opioid withdrawal and I mentally prepared myself for a fierce unrest, but otherwise mild withdrawal as most people told me kratom would yield and I started tapering off, which was horrifyingly hard to do considering the unrest it caused. I lay in my couch twisting and turning non-stop during this period getting increasingly shorter nights of sleep and feeling sicker and sicker, until I decided it was time to go cold turkey.
I flushed whatever kratom I had left, and I went for it. I got cold to the bone, and that didn’t go away for 4 weeks, and for another 2 weeks it was a very big challenge to feel warmth, but in those 2 weeks it slowly got better.
I got no sleep whatsoever for the first month, and after that I would only sleep about 4 hours a week because of the continuing unrest that would cause me to wake up every 5 convulsions whenever I did find some sleep. It took me about 6 weeks to start to feel normal again. Start.
It took me yet another 6 weeks to start to feel like I was going to be able to live without kratom. By then I was still only getting about 30 hrs of sleep a week, and most of that during the day, because I was still battling the severe, barely relenting unrest.
At least now I wasn’t battling the compounded kratom rebound effect. But things were still not good by any standard. They were bad. In fact, they were VERY bad. So much so that another month later, I broke down into tears and told my then-girlfriend-now-wife, that I couldn’t take it anymore, that if things hadn’t gotten any better in 14 days, I was going to euthanize myself by cathetherizing myself with a number of empty cathether bags, bleeding me out by laying them down on the floor.
That was a pretty dark moment. But we agreed. Life was unbearable as it was going.
We also agreed to keep looking for doctors or treatments and fighting for my life those 2 weeks.
So we looked around and I found another doctor with a comparable view on things that my other doc had, and he told me to make me a “salad smoothie” 5 times a day.
Seriously? A salad smoothie?
“Blend fresh salad, carrots, tomatoes, cucumber, mayo and yogurt, 5 times a day. ADD SOME SUGAR IF TASTE IS BAD.”
Really? Are you freaking kidding me? And you think this is how I want to keep on living?
He also told me to smoke weed, which I already did. And my wife told me not to knock it, but to re-shape it.
So I took his words and reframed them, and I bought a masticating juicer and started juicing myself a veggie juice 3 times a day, and I ate salads 5 times a day. 5 meals with only veggies and some nuts n seeds and a dressing. And a heap of supplements that I was advised from a few places, to protect and heal my nervous system.
Lo and behold, I improved. In 2 weeks time, I had noticed my symptoms were slowly getting less vicious, and my day-sleeping time when I was free of agony got longer.
It took me a long time of eating 5 salads a day and drinking mostly carrot and ginger smoothies, but eventually I got to the point where life was sort of liveable again. I switched to a Keto version of that diet somewhere along the way and sprinkled in some intermittent fasting from time to time. I did have to watch out with keto and intermittent because I am really skinny as is and keto did not do me much good on the body fat department. I had to stop eventually because it was too hard keeping my weight up.
So then, I could walk again without convulsions. I could sleep during the night for some hours. I even got back into working life for about 2 years.
But in those same 2 years I also realized that no matter how much I try, I’ll never be completely rid of the restlessness, and it’s never going to keep at a level where life is truly enjoyable without medication.
Luckily, I also learned there IS 1 med that will keep my symptoms at bay for about 60-80% depending on the bad or good days, and that’s methadone. It does so for practically ALL refractory cases, and considering augmentation only happens with the other drugs and is never seen with methadone, I would make a case for methadone being an excellent first-line therapy, better than most of what is considered first-line today.
It’s only a low dose, and it’s been a godsend. My doctor, the old guy with the cancer patients, not the salad doc, prescribes it to me in 5 mg tablets, 3 times a day. He let me find my own dose carefully and follows me up on it every 3 months, and ever since this shit started, I’ve never been happier.
So if you do want to take kratom. Take my advice and don’t make it a habit.
It might not be like that caffeine addiction after all.
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I’d be up for some selection work on these if you still got seeds to spare when I’m legal. Six straight hours of sleep sound like paradise.
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Pain relief from arthritis for me is tincture , edibles but the best is eat the oil
1/2 gram a day works well for me
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Sorry to hear about your suffering, I occasionally get a bit of RLS mine is caused from nerve damage in my neck and the signals bleeding over into other nerve channels.
All Dis ease is caused from inflammation damage in the body, once you can remove what ever is creating the inflammation, foods, drugs and environmental factors your body can heal.
You should listen to this doc on his diet recommendations, he talks about how seriously bad epilepsy children had there symptoms completely disappear on a 80% fat diet. The lack of refined sugars and carbs caused the body to return to a epilepsy free state. Its a hard diet to keep to but with the use of MCT oil you can have more carbs and less fat in your diet, as it is similar to ketones. I am not saying that epilepsy is like your problem, but it sounds like the trigger mechanism is similar.
They found this out observing epileptics in the recovery state which is like being in an awake coma. These people would stop eating and the less they ate the less the epilepsy happened. Then when they come out of that state and started to eat again the epilepsy would start to get worse. When you are in a food deprivation state, ( I do intermittent and long fasting ) you produce ketones from free fatty acids stored in the body, MCT oil acts like ketones in the body.
I agree with you about the pharmaceutical treatments for long term illness just cause further problems later on. Food is medicine or poison, you just got to figure out what is poisoning you and remove it. Your salads are full of vits and minerals as well as enzymes and poly phenol’s that heal your body and remove inflammation.
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Oh gawd damn!
I forgot to mention keto in there! I eventually stepped over onto Keto with the salad thing incorporated into it, which is fairly easy when you just add a load of high fat yogurt with strawberries for breakfast, nuts, oil and bacon on very salad, and sugarfree sweet coconut fat bombs n stuff like that for desert.
Doing everything I could against inflammation was also a very big part of my supplementation and diet. Most of what I learned in that department gets covered pretty well on the site RLCURE.COM, which is aimed at curing restless legs, an incurable disease. But there have been people who have cured themselves of it. And I came close but I was never able to beat it completely sadly. I didn’t ever do everything on that list either because doing them ALL is a bit hard to say the least, neither would it be good probably. The most helpful for me, of all the things they list, is using a masticating juicer to make fresh carrot juice with some ginger in it 3 times a day every day. In the end I added an orange as well but it wasn’t recommendable for me to eat oranges in the beginning so I only did that as I progressed.
Fruits are something to be careful with when you have neuro issues. You can easily get too much fruit sugars in a day if you follow standard recommandations, and it’s often better to go with smaller low-sugar fruits, preferably part of them loaded with anthocyanincs like a mix of blueberries and strawberries, and always go organic because of the amounts of neurotoxic residues can be left on non-organic produce from the pesticide sprays.
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I am a vegetarian 95% of what I eat is organic. Berries I eat every day, the only fruit I eat is lemons whole in a smoothie with blueberries a half table spoon of honey and a cup and a half of almond milk.
I drink about a half pint of home made naturally fermented probiotic ginger beer a day as well. Most of my food is vegetable curries as you can hide a lot of bland tasting veggies in it, plus its a great way to get all the anti inflammatory poly phenols in the spices into your diet every day.
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Are you in Canada?
Dates and dried figs.
With me I absolutely love curry. The spicier the better. I rarely have colds or a flu these days. My only issue is my stomach isn’t what it used to be and if I eat any spice mid week I’ve got to get up an hour earlier to get it out of my system. I have to take imodium soon as I wake up to combat what usually happens later in the morning. 
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I went through a period of making my curries hotter and hotter until I nearly created a ulcer lol
Now I step the chilli’s down and focus more on the other spices for flavour rather than heat.
I do like a good vindaloo or phal now and again with some added scotch bonnets or reaper peppers on top of the chilli, but like you, I know the next day the equivalent of molten hot larva will be exiting my body as soon as I wake up, if not earlier forcing me out of bed lol.
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