No, western society bases itself on hiding the accuser because, “people wouldnt flag/tattletale on others if they had to account for their actions”
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They have to account for their actions.
System works with the flagging accuracy. If their flags are not helpful, they won’t have any meaning in the future.
If they abuse the flagging system, we can even reduce their trust level to remove the ability to flag.
Mods always have the final word (it’s their responsibility, not the flagger’s), so there’s no need to publicly disclose the identity of the flagger. Doing so could make people hesitant to flag.
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You know what @funkyfunk , you make way too many assumptions for my liking and it’s a bit insulting. You have zero idea of what I have gone through in my life but it’s good to know my experiences don’t mean as much as someone else’s even without knowing what they are.
The same person that scolded everyone and instructed them to do better even though some, like myself, had not even seen what we were being told to do better about.
That’s a matter of perspective.
Never said you did, I only responded to a comment from you regarding what was going on in the thread.
Yes, happens when people offend me from time to time. Since I recognize this I am just going to drop off this thread and leave you all to it. Take care.
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We’ve strayed quite a bit from the original topic of the flagging system. The political and off-topic discussions will be moderated soon.
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Wow… Just a few thoughts before I push this thread off a cliff having seen the damage it created… No one here had ill intentions. I actually thought we had more in common being gardeners than most others around us in our personal lives. I think I will sign out today and hope some OG spirit will live on another day!!! Cheers @DougDawson
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Not you pal
Many blessings and shut the hell up
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Well I’m sorry you feel that way. I’m curious what assumptions you think I made, cause I don’t think I did, nor tried to imply something. I didn’t say neither that your experience has no weight. You described a bit some of the tough moments you had in your life, that’s all I know. I was just replying to some of your words, not trying to accuse you or anything.
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I was thinking something waaay different. I was thinking if the person can see who flags them, maybe they can settle there dispute on the side rather than get big bro involved . I vow never ever ever ever to flag someone because at the end of the day, no one online is gonna hurt my feelings one bit. What makes this place special is the ability to work through problems, if stoners can’t do it, no one can. Kinda like what @Foreigner said
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People in this thread have made compelling claims, however I enjoy the flagging system. I’m a digital native, I have seen many online spaces and many forms of moderation.
I’ve seen what happens when spaces are not maintained and a more “free for all” method is used. It ends up being a place full of bickering and people saying abhorrent shit because they are allowed to. I come to overgrow to escape that harsh digital climate I was raised in.
I believe that if an individual abuses the flagging system, they should have flagging privileges removed at the mods discretion.
I do not think we can compare digital spaces to real life social groups. Online spaces cultivate a primal tribalist instinct we never evolved away from. You have no shared ancestor, environment, or religion with the evil little person in your phone screen, this makes it much easier to antagonize them in your mind. This is why online spaces have a lot more infighting than real life spaces. When you can see eye to eye, things are different and you ought to be free. For spaces like these, I understand how incredibly necessary censorship can be. After all, you are free to post on another website that will tolerate what you have to say. Just don’t be surprised if it is a less friendly space.
Respectfully, just my two cents as someone who was practically raised online.
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Respectfully, this place will never be “free for all “,joe got a handle on it. Do you think if you went outside more your opinion would be different , the world CAN be a beautiful place, I was raised by animals. Usually the bigger animal eats the smaller animal. Here online we can’t do that, but we can do is be an online keyboard warriors flagging someone that is trying to make there point, and if someone wants to click on something that was censored so they can see it, they should be able to for informational purposes. I understand the mods have final say so, but if there not elected by the people, then it’s basically a dictatorship good or bad. Kinda like what @Foreigner said (1hr later)
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Block him if you don’t like what he says. Then you won’t see his posts and have less posts to read
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Yes, please ignore me. Then I won’t see your disingenuous much love and blessings.
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Ten characters
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I don’t think you entirely understood my comment and that’s fine. Digital native is a term used to describe when a generation of people has access to the internet within their childhood years. This does not mean I don’t go outside and live a real life experience, but I am happy to clear this up for you. Respectfully, the only reason “Joe got a handle on it” is precisely due to his moderating approach. Everyone who argues online is a keyboard warrior, that is the nature I was trying to highlight in my comment. This is a forum where we post about plants, not a country. I do not think all moderated spaces need an election. All private online spaces are “dictatorships”. You sort of agree to that every time you join a community with rules and banishment. At the end of the day, I just don’t feel it’s that serious. After all just like you, I’d rather just be outside enjoying the plants and animals.
also a joke in regards to sbeanonnamellow @Foreigner falls under court jester law, someone has to be where the people are cracking dad jokes
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I’m super late to this and probably don’t have a ton of new thoughts to add. I was one who was advocating for a flagging system in the pinned topic. Amusingly I think I’ve flagged under 5 posts on this site? (maybe not any? I know I’ve thought about some and decided against them, and I have a shitty memory, so I’m (hopefully) overestimating)
I appreciate that the flagging system in place takes moderator action into account when weighing future flags. That seems like a great way to avoid/reduce the vindictive flaggers.
I’ve seen online communities implode because people thought they shouldn’t be subject to the moderation that was in place when they joined the group and got mad about it. That never made a lot of sense to me. I’ve dipped out of numerous online communities where the moderation wasn’t to my comfort, both too much or too little. That’s ok to do!
Also as a small note about freedom of speech and whatnot: this site isn’t owned by someone in the US. Even if it was, there are US laws about sites being able to moderate speech. So under no circumstances would “free speech” be the overriding starting point for this site’s existence.
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Advocating for a non white team of mods … that was the statment i had issue with…
It means as long as you’re not white you can be a mod… does this sound like discrimination to you??
I have no issue with any race or culture… i dont judge… but when i see someone state things like getting a non white team of mods… i call that racism and it for sure is… is there any reason why you wouldn’t think that statement is racist in itself?
Which was my 1 and only point… not sure where the confusion lies here…
And no… im not being sarcastic… so please… lets talk this through…
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I love me some drama 
But I do have to say
I have never flagged once 
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@Sincitytoker Oh man, I was some close to hitting that flag button to try and lighten up the mood a bit lol decided against it tho and good thing I did because I thought you said you’ve never been flagged before.
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I’m just here to flag each and every one of these posts, even if it takes me all night.
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I read “hire non white moderaters” as “in addition” not “replace with”. No one advocated for removing white moderators that I caught, certainly not the entire team. Adding representation isn’t removal of representation.
If there aren’t any currently, adding one or more women as mods would be fantastic, because there’s definitely content posted on this site in various places that makes it less welcoming to women, and having that perspective could be super valuable.
Having a moderation team made up of a diverse group of people who have a diverse array of lived experience is a valuable thing. It is good and important if you want a variety of people from a variety of lived experiences to be a strong community.
I accept that it’s unlikely there will ever be any mods of my specific demographic, and I joined with the assumption that there would probably not be a particularly diverse mod team on a weed forum. That doesn’t mean I can’t hope maybe it would shift one day.
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