How should flagging work?

Foreigner has been flagged into oblivion:

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Good morning @DougDawson! Thereā€™s no reasons for you to apologize really. I know youā€™re a good guy, and youā€™re right these are difficult (very) matters to discuss. Iā€™ve put our interaction here under the account of misunderstanding. You did not create tension, in fact I rather thought you seem to have a bad day, like we all do at times. Not that cool DD Iā€™m used to. The one you prove once again to be with that post. :slight_smile:

English not being my first language, Iā€™m often fuzzy, and I see how my comment may have been offending.

Iā€™m the one who should apologize honestly. After sitting a bit on what happened, I think I was trying to make some broader statements addressed to the community in fact, after being heated by some stuffs I read. I felt the discussion was slipping sometimes to some places I dislike. But as I quoted you, you were put into the spotlights, which was not fair. So I believe you were right to stand up. And you did with your usual diplomacy I think. I would probably wonā€™t have been so much in your position.

Most of the times I try to ponder my comments, but I sometimes fail when things heat up. Sorry Iā€™ve put you in this situation. Hope life is good for you, and your sickness has gone!

@SHSC-1 I still donā€™t think this discussion belongs here. But please do not rewrite history. I did reach out to you asking politely if you would consider removing the part of your post that offended me. There was just a tiny part of it that wasnā€™t relevant and could be removed, while keeping the rest of it, which made sense in the discussion.
You ignored me, so I had to flag the entire post. Only then you eventually reach out to tell me something in the vein of ā€œfuck off, donā€™t message me anymoreā€. The post was hidden so I moved on. Recently I stumbled on it and noticed it was visible again. It pissed me off and I overreacted. Though I did not say you were racist, rather that what you said was. Too political and off topic for OG anyway.
So please donā€™t distort the facts. I was ready to discuss it with you to sort that out privately, with respect. I tried to keep an open mind, but you didnā€™t let me any choices. Iā€™m sad it had to go that road. I do not expect apologies or anything, and I wonā€™t either. We may not ought to be friends, thatā€™s no big deal. Though if you wouldnā€™t mind keeping this narratives out of the way, Iā€™m sure it would help OG to be more inclusive.

@GYOweed I donā€™t understand what you try to say, like most of the time. Youā€™re using a lot of slang and sentences forms that are not easy to get for a non-native english speaker like me. What are ā€œflunkiesā€, who are they, whatā€™s ā€œewwā€?

Sorry for the long post @Everyone, have a good sunday!

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It shouldnā€™t even have to be a thing. If something offends you move on or block the user. We are all adults and should act like it. Growing up we used to say ā€œSticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.ā€ That is something the entire world would be better off doing. All the complaining, whining, and bitching makes me laugh over the smallest things. These things donā€™t even affect your life they are just words on the internet from someone you donā€™t knowā€¦ not directed at anyone just how i feel about it. I think it also gives some people a feeling of entitlement.
Like they can have power over something they donā€™t like because their fragile feelings get hurt. Just my. 02 never flagged anyone never will.

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ever notice how the ā€œfuck your feelingsā€ crowd have the most feelings? yeah.

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Nothing wrong with being kind and taking others into consideration. It isnā€™t weak, it is actual strength. Everyoneā€™s in their own place in their own path in this world where we are intersecting. Noone goes about life alone. None got here on their ownā€¦. Regardless of what they say.

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Blocking a small confederacy of unfit cyberstalkers that never even used my products in a sponsored page saves mods time and energy actually. Esp when they flag each one of my posts for 0 just cause lol. Frankly nothing better then cleaning up the spread of harmful non verifiable misinformation.

Conflating that with controlling a narrative is by no meane a shop owners failure. But an attachment the perceiver should abandon

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Woa, what a tough warrior you are @XgrimmX ! Sure everyone should be you or your friends, thatā€™d be much more simple! Thatā€™s the only way to live anyway. Why should we care about other experiences?

I can see the sweat flowing on that virilisticly inflated torso of yours.

ā€œEmotions are a weakness!ā€

Standing like a rock.

ā€œNothing can beat nor move me!ā€

Oh wait, hereā€™s come the wind. Oh and waterā€¦ Cold too now!

Shit, whereā€™s that rock already?

I hope youā€™ll get the analogy. Iā€™ve behaved like you said for too long, believe me, it doesnā€™t work. Itā€™ll blow in your face at some point before you realize it.

But youā€™re right, let everyone ignore everyone and OG be just an aggregate of hoards that ignore and despite each other. What a thrill!

Words are not an abstract things, they have very concrete outcomes in real life, sometimes deadly. They do impact people reading them. Maybe thatā€™s why neo-nazi speech isnā€™t tolerated usually, donā€™t you think?

All this reminds me of the usual bullies ā€œItā€™s just a jokeā€ defense.

That thread is just a non-sense honeypot really, the problem is not the flagging system.

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Wow that seems a little extreme. But its just an opinion not a discussion take it however you want.

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I tend to agree with the ā€œlight is the best sanitizerā€ approach but itā€™s probably easier to keep the site free of objectionable topics by keeping OG out of search engine results for those objectionable topics. If thereā€™s a way to keep the flagged/hidden material out of search engine results then Iā€™m all for keeping the material available to we know whoā€™s in the community. Otherwise, I have trouble seeing the benefit of Overgrow showing up in ā€œNazi flagā€ search results.

Pretty sure we all find the nazi flag objectionable. Such a thing should be flagged no question.

Iā€™d prefer to see people use the ignore button than flagging but I suppose Iā€™m in the minority.

Donā€™t like me? Shut me up donā€™t flag me.

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Absolutely.

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For sure, I was just speaking to the idea of whether flagged/objectionable material should be kept around.

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Wellā€¦ I would like to see it. Iā€™d prefer to know who Iā€™m dealing with instead of some anonymous content flag.

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Tried thatā€¦ it was met with a barrage of even more off topic posts to the point where the flagging began.

You didnt give a damn that others would like less OT in threads, only when your posts get flagged and you melted down.

Somebody said earlier. The fuck your feelers gang sure had issue when it came to theirs.

Then the spinoff thread became about flagging, and not the disrespect that brought it all on.

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Hostility received.

Iā€™m not going to flag you. No need to worry.

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Thatā€™s what I think as wellā€¦ I just donā€™t know how it works with search engines. I donā€™t see the upside to overgrow showing up in search engines for topics we find objectionable. It may be nothingā€¦ like how many people actually make an account and start posting offensive stuff on a weed growing site when they were searching for a Nazi flag. :woman_shrugging:

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Search engines I donā€™t know but if someone is posting such things I want to be able to label them appropriately.

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100% Iā€™d prefer to know why a person is being flagged/hidden if theyā€™re allowed to keep posting.

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I have seen first hand how these things get out of control. I was in Highschool at the time. A splinter group of adults started grooming Highschool/college kids. This did not take long to explode into a very dangerous situation. The FBI was brought into investigate and lots of peopleā€™s lifeā€™s were changed long before they were old enough to know what a long lasting effect it would have on their lives. This all happened very quickly and still has long lasting effects for many. Understand words have effects even if they donā€™t affect you dose not mean they did not have negative effects. At the time many thought the words ment nothing. Some took the words seriously and the outcome was life altering . These are public threads so your words travel far and could easily be misinterpreted. If this is a place you want to have these types of discussions Let me know Iā€™ll get his cell number and forward it to you, you guys can chat. Until then, Iā€™ll flag a Post that reference anything of the like.

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Thanks @funkyfunk , glad to hear we are cool. :v:

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