Is this nutrient burn or what am I looking at?

Hey all, I’m pretty familiar with nutrient burn in older plants, but right now I’m seeing it in a plant that is 18 days from sprout…

I think… The reason I’m not sure it’s nutrient burn is because the tips are orange colored instead of yellow…

She is generally healthy but I’d like to know what’s up with these leaves…

Here she is in full:

Here is the older growth where I noticed it first:

And here it is just starting on the leaf above that:

It’s orange or rust colored so that’s what’s throwing me off…

Any ideas?

I’ll lower the EC in the rez this evening. Right now at about .9EC, flood and drain with hydroton. Plant is a sativa dominant photo period.

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Looks like a magnesium deficiency. Add a little calmag or Epsom into the solution :v:
Edit - it certainly looks more indica than sativa also mate. Maybe a seed mix up??

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She is maybe 60% sativa :slight_smile:

I’ve had some problems with Mg before but it’s always been yellowing between the veins that gives it away. I’ve looked through a few pictures of Mg def and they don’t look like she does exactly… Not sure if that’s what’s up with her but I’ll keep it in mind :thinking:

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Slight potassium def
Hit her with some bloom or pk : )

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Double check your pH pen calibration?

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Since its older growth I’d not personally chase it to much but if the newer growth shows similar symptoms something is definitely being locked out. As @ReikoX suggested start with your pH meter.

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Did a two point calibration to make sure but the meter was good at both points. I’m pretty religious about keeping my meter calibrated, clean and stored in solution.

pH has been harder to stabilize as it’s been rising but recently it’s not bad. Yesterday was 5.9, today it’s 6.1. I did a reading before and after calibration and was same.

Pretty weird… If it continues another 10 days I’ll probably cull the plant. Conditions are as close to perfect as I can get them so if she can’t hang them she’s gotta go…

Temps and RH are solid, pH is good, EC maybe a little high but no signs of toxicity.

:thinking:Wtf

I could definitely do that, but wouldn’t that be a little strange for a plant only 18 days old?

It does look like pictures of potassium def though…

I’m using foliage pro and pro tekt. Pro tekt has some K in it, and so does foliage pro…

I could add some mag pro or bloom but both have more P than K. I probably have some Kool Bloom I could add… Hmmmmmmmmm

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i’ll say you’re instincts are right & it’s just barely showing, not a real scorcher :fire: :joy:

:evergreen_tree: :postal_horn:

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Any idea why it’s orange like that instead of yellow?
Thanks!

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It’s more guesswork from me :blush: (no hydro experience) but I’d say due to it being less severe? or new? :confused: (IME) It seems like burned leaf material progresses or “heals”. Like a small droplet can become a lens & create sunburn that in no way affects the overall leaf. Both light & nutrient “burn” are just that, temperature too high due to internal chemistry or light intensity.

Startin to get outta my league here… :sweat_smile:

Happy New Year :v:

:evergreen_tree:

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Happy New year, thanks for taking a look I appreciate it!

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I would also say potassium deficiency. The orange tips and leaf edges are usually a tell tale sign. Happy New Year!

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I disagree that they are deficient. That is either a slight under water or its burn. Do you know what ppms or ec your watering at?

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Flooding every 2 hours. EC is .9 and tap water starts at .3 so .6EC of actual nutrients.

Tough call…

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I’m in the burn camp. Potassium deficiency in veg unlikely unless your mix is way off.

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Oh shit well you can crank that up forsure 1.5 atleast id say. Srry i use ppms at that point 900ppm to 1200ppm is fine i like to foliar spray if i see any deficiency. Hows your root ball look?

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I’m in the burn camp as well although I would personally apply some kelp in both a foliar spray with a chelating agent such as fulvic acid. Age Old Kelp is really good and so is BioAg FulPower. The kelp will help prevent stress, increase growth, and if we are wrong about it being a burn, it will take care of the deficiency. Hope this helps! Happy new year!!!

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I’m in 1 gallon of hydroton and recirculation via top feed so I can’t see the roots but rez temps have been 72 pretty steady and I use Zone to keep things sterile.

I have Floralicious Plus which has humics and kelp, I could try to add it. Not sure how it will react with the Zone but I think it should work Ok. It’s organic but not alive so I don’t think they will interfere with each other.

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I’m using foliage pro which seems to have a good reputation for being a complete nutrient which makes me think it’s burn… But why is it orange?

:thinking::thinking::thinking:

Tap water EC is .3 and rez total EC is about .9 which seems low but it was rising earlier this week. It’s pretty stable now.

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