Landrace Expansion & Trade

Sounds more like you may have the sativa used in the cross. I just remember the guy running the Brazilian seed company releasing the cabeca. At one point I was in contact with him about strains but decided not to go threw him as there was some contraversy surrounding the safety of ordering at the time.


He is on strainly still , also I believe gypsy still has cabeca seeds available and I saw a Canadian company selling them aslo, seems like a bunch went out to certain people.

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Looks like it might be a candidate for the Can-Traption 360 degree vertical SCROG top and let it go wild around the trellace…:sunglasses::metal:

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I honestly don’t know what I have. Looking for any info out on line about Brazil landraces produces no results for me. Only on you tube. My Brazilian co-worker punches it in on his phone and all sorts of stuff pops up. I guess we’ll both know more a bit further into flowering. If this isn’t the Cabeca you were looking for, and it is the long flowering Brazilian landrace used, why not recreate it? I have pollen. Have any Afghan going? If it’s not what we think, then there are some seeds for experimentation or for newbs or whatever…really no loss to try.

Anyone have any pure/landrace Indica’s?

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Gypsy was out on seedbay a week ago. I saved some originals for you just in case…but I am making a few from mine if luck is with me. I Couldn’t do it as planned the other day, but now they are all ready for pollen, not just the stick phenos. Need some dry weather. This could indeed be the Cabeca you speak of. But not the f1 i don’t think. Is it possible to breed an ibl of two drastically different flowering times if you repeatedly select very early and very late plants only, with nothing ripening in between? Say a 12 week and a 16-18 week?

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I hand cracked my hard to germ landrace seeds. Some made it. I read a lot of stuff about cracking old seeds. Easiest thing if you can get it is to just start the seeds in vermicompost. There was a thread somewhere and germ techniques were tried on very old seeds and there was an incredible percentage of success with vermicompost. ( with lots of perlite?)Very very high germ rates with very old seeds. If that is not available, @Guitarzan has a lot of tricks up his sleeve too. He has that germination bomb link somewhere too. Maybe some more seeds will sprout and pop up soon. Hope so.

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I was under the impression originally that the cabeca was pure landrace but now I’m not sure and in all honesty have to many strains as it is ,I’m sure somebody else here could use them more then me. Now in regards to the tashgurken I would love to trade you for some of those if your keeping them pure :grin:

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Me too. I still have hope… I’m working with the Brazilian coworker tomorrow, and a friend that’s lived there recently is coming along. Maybe I can find out more. He thought Cabeca and Manga Rosa were the same thing, and I’m inclined to agree. If they are indeed the same, but with different names, or maybe they are just different cultivars of the same landrace, I’m confident I’m growing the true landrace. We’ll see. I’ll be sad to waste all that effort on something else.

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Here is a pic of the Tashkurgan.

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Here is a pic of Tashkurgan in the ground in May. They took a while to establish their gender. I take clones early and flower them out to determine if I want to pollinate and which plant to pollinate.

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I’ll be keeping Tashkurgan pure, yes. I’ll be happy to pass along some beans. Since the repotting they have greened up and grown some. Looking nice now. I’ve kept them very small, because I read that they can get very tall. This was more an exploratory run, to see if they could possibly be grown in the ground and finish naturally here. I certainly won’t see the full genetic potential of these plants this year, but I’ll get an idea. They are growing quite like the description stated, with some appearing to be more indica, and some appearing to be more sativa. The stem rub on them is very nice, and some are quite fruity too. I finally found a little bit more info on Cabeca de negro. It is a relative of Manga Rosa, which I found out flowers anywhere from 10 to 14 weeks. I have read that both Cabeza de negro and manga Rosa are used interchangeably sometimes. (My friend said that the Brazilians call good weed from Northeast Brazil Cabeza de negro) . So much so, they are both listed as a possible White Widow parent. The locals say the genetics originally came from Africa, possibly Angola. I am beginning to get smells that are morphing into mango. The Brazilian girl that just moved here in the last year-and-a-half, has smoked manga Rosa many times. We will know for sure if that’s what it is before too much longer. I watched more videos on Mango Rosa, and damn if my plants don’t look exactly like it. One of the videos said that mango Rosa was made from Cabeza de negro, which is a possibility too. In this case, I would guess that manga Rosa is a hybrid between Cabeza de Negro and something else. This could explain the similarity in looks, and the disparity in flowering times listed for manga, and the flowering times I am having with Cabeca. The plants will be starting their 8th week of flowering in just a few days. It doesn’t appear that there will be anything harvested at 10 weeks. 12 to 14 weeks seems more likely for the pole phenos, and they could go more than that. Three of the four bushy phenos have started to catch up flowering wise, and I think some could possibly go longer than 16 weeks. So for this one, my guess is 12 to 16+ weeks flowering time, or about two more weeks than Mango Rosa is listed as.

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Did those burma/ manipur arrive?

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They did but the post office is trying to send them back because I failed to pick them up fast enough, it’s some Bs and I’m going to be there first thing in the mon morning. Tthey only had them two days.

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I also noticed both narrow and broad leaf variants in the Tashkurgan. I noticed quite a bit of variation in the 12 pack. Some were sweet fruity early in flower, then turned out to be more floral later in flower and the cured bud reminded me of cherry almond, but there also is variation in the aromas depending on the pheno.

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How you doing bud, so you finally dragged me off ig into this fuck huge landrace thread :grin: (hope i got the right dude). Some neat shit going on in here

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Welcome to OG and the landrace thread @TheCrueltyDesk ! :v:

It is getting pretty ‘fuck huge’ isn’t it?! Lmao! :joy:

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Hey man. Welcome.

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Defoliation of the Deep Chunk is more like bonsai maintenance than manicure. I find it useful to pick a shape (suggested by the plant) and continuously trim until the (extremely malleable) plant settles into it.

Gently pressing the petioles and branches into desirable positions is also surprisingly effective.

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Welcome to OG. We love growing weed and making seed. Then smoking that weed and planting that seed.

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I love it!!

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