It sounds like you have a nice starting lineup on the landraces. I am looking to grow these sorts of strains as well.
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Shoot me an addy PM and I can send some beans for you to run…
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Lorry, Lord I have so many strains to run…I don’t know when I 'll get to all of my strains
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Any particular landrace’s you are interested in?
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That Kashmir gene pool is special. I think that Murray landrace is kind of in between Hindu Kush and Kashmir… kind of like a landrace hybrid if you will, or a link between the two regions, with qualities of both. It would be a good one to work if you wanted to have something unique. Supposed to have good mold and cold resistance.
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It’s our burden. We have been chosen lol.
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In my mind I wanna grow strains that were popular when I was younger such as columbian Acapulco jamacian and Panama. Theh highni remember from these was quite different than what I smoke now although I could just be wearing g rose colored glasses too lol. We
picked up a guy hitchhiking one time and he had jamacian for sale for 20 an oz. We smoked a joint driving around to where he was going and it was a soaring high and we had a great time just driving and music and windows open. My eyes were so red I remember.
It was great. Anyway, it seems from some reading that these heirloom varieties have more of a psychedelic type.of high. I have collected a few seed varieties so far but I have some columbian haze, malawi, and durban poison seeds and also some afghan types
as well.
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I know cannabis isn’t indigenous to Hawaii but I got some Maui Waui seeds coming along. Some say its been there long enough to be considered a landrace.
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Welcome to Overgrow! That’s a heck of an intro. Mauie wowie is supposed to be excellent smoke. Definitely an old heirloom at least, and we dont discriminate! Good excuse to start a thread. There will be interest in that one for sure.
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I know what you mean. The Mex and Columbian I started with brought us so many giggles! My first buy was a $ 10 zip of Mexican ‘dirt weed’ that was total bliss. Would love to have some that now just to see if it was the smoke or just the times.
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Thanks for the kind reception Upstate. I think I’m going to like it here!
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I’m searching for those highs of yesteryear myself. In my opinion I think it’s the THCV in a lot of the landrace and heirloom strains that give you that psychedelic type high. Unfortunately, not found in any indica varieties that I know of. Very few hybrids have any significant amounts of THCV either.
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I don’t know what we were finding in THOSE days but I haven’t found any giggle ‘weed’ in years.
The closest I came was smoking strawberry cough and listening to captain beeheart.
Maybe it was the ‘weed’ maybe it was captain Beefheart?
I know what I don’t like…it’s the modern strains that make you stupid high…like dropping a hydrocodone
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Nepalese strains can have high thcv. Black Willie, a Nepalese hybrid, has been tested at 15%. Thcv is also found in Malawi and South African cannabis, and likely others. Good luck with your search! Indian Landrace exchange and the Real Seed Company have Nepalese in stock
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Thanks for the heads up on the THCV. I didn’t know about the Nepalese. 15% is incredible!
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Have two Black Willie F can’t wait to give it a taste. Gonna try BX’ing with the VietROM pollen, as well as a limited reproduction if the one mail makes pollen.
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THCV is an antagonist, meaning it works against THC. I honestly doubt it’s what you want if you want that psychedelic high.
They recently found a cannabinoid that is something like 20x stronger than THC but only found in trace amounts and is fairly rare. I’m sure there are many more that have yet to be discovered and it’ll be one of those that provide what you’re looking for.
Somehow people took THCV and instantly associated with something without any proof and a bunch of broscience people spread that bs everywhere. Then years later, with proper research it’s proven that it’s nearly impossible to provide the effects it’s always been associated with.
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J-Icky, THCV is indeed an antagonist. It shortens the duration of the high, not the high itself. As in, very high, or no ceiling strains. The kind were the more you smoke the higher you get. Exactly what effects was THCV supposed to have that were scientifically proven to be impossible? I’m just a bro not a scientist but I’m sure it was some dudes in lab coats that found THCV.
But in my limited experience I have found my favorite highs to be from strains that have THCV in it. Many African strains and South American cultivars to name a few.
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The so called psychedelic high. How is something that is found in only trace amounts in landrace and is known to completely reverse all activity on the Cb-1 n cb-2 receptors in small, let alone micro, doses supposed to cause a ceiling less high that can be described as psychedelic?
The research is freely available and yes it was found by real scientists but they just found a unique molecular, they didn’t say this is what caused that. There are hundreds of cannabinoids that have yet to be fully identified and know what they do.
Like I said in my last post they just recently identified one that was several times more psychoactive than thc, so maybe that’s the one you should be looking for. I’m sure there are many more that are active in micro levels.
The broscience I speak of is once it was discovered that THCV was a thing some guy said this strain does this to me and this was found in that strain so it has to be that that does it with zero actual proof and the stoner community just ran with it. But now that real science is getting into cannabis this has been disproven and it was only a coincidence that THCV is in those strains. Not to mention that same type of high has been found in landraces that have been found to have zero THCV.
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I’ve often read that strains high in thcv give a “luxuriant” high. A feel good high with radiating body warmth. Shorter lasting, but more intense high. There may indeed be some other cannabinoid present along with thcv that causes these effects, but we dont yet know what it is, or if thcv acts in some other manner as yet unidentified. With over 400 cannabinoids in cannabis, there is a good chance its something unknown. For now, It is just known that strains high in thcv give a good high for some reason. Perhaps thcv is a marker for the presence of a cannabinoid yet to be researched.
THCP is the new thc discovered by Italian scientists, and is reputed to be 33 times better at entering the body than THC, due to better absorption rates into the body through its CB1 receptors.
There has also been a CBDP molecule discovered. The main difference in these two newly discovered cannabinoids are that they have seven sides instead of the traditional five sides contained in THC and CBD. Until now, only man made cannabinoid molecules were known to have more than 5 sides.
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