Let's discuss Bigfoot

You guys should check out the Todd standing videos

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Wow. Weird looking cat!

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I have followed him for awhile. He makes some interesting points, especially about the percentage of land that Bigfoot could occupy. He also has some video of Sasquatch running that look pretty good.

Regarding the closeup of the face in the link you provided- I have my doubts. Check out the link below. I’m curious what you think!

https://www.woodape.org/?smd_process_download=1&download_id=1278

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national parks missing 411 David Paullides high strangeness

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That’s another interesting source for cryptids!

No offense to anyone here but I think it’s complete bullshit. there’s been zero credible evidence ever found (eye witness accounts, no matter who are extremely unreliable as evidence). For how many people over the years claim to have seen one or been near one they should be relatively common. All the trail cameras and none have caught images of it clearly? No body, not a single hair to be DNA tested, nothing. For something’s existence to be proven we need more than just stories and super grainy video. In a time of cell phones that can record 4k I Imagine these bigfoot videos are going to remain super grainy. I put it in the same boat as the loch ness monster.

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Very interesting…… :thinking: see you just never know. Technology isn’t making it any easier to decipher either as they just get better and better at faking

No offense taken! Your points are valid regarding clear, reliable vidence.

To play devils advocate…

There are some interesting casts of tracks that some experts (Jeffrey Melburn) find credible.

A lot of people believe that they can see the infrared beams game cameras use. They supposedly avoid them.

In the US people are put to death on eyewitness evidence. While I share your opinion, many ppl place a lot of value in eyewitness reports.

You’re correct regarding no body. However, bodies decay quickly, especially in the woods. Also, some ppl think they may have a culture and bury their dead.

Taking pictures may be difficult when you’re nervous looking at such an enormous creature. But, like you, I think we need more clarity in the pictures to accept them as a form of truth.

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I totally agree. If they are real good pictures they will be hard to accept because of technological leaps.

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Harry and the Hendersons is one of my favorite childhood movies so I’m surely a bit bias.

I think there is a stronger likelihood of Bigfoot and similar type of species existing than not. Not exactly the same but touching on similar threads there are local newspapers here going back decades with sightings of similar looking creatures and way back over a hundred years ago or so the newspapers were reporting finding large human like bones for very tall figures. Giants. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some outcrossed giant genetics out there in various terrestrial forms with an advanced intelligence compared to it’s more typical “earth” form. Many blessings and much love

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I love Harry and the Hendersons too!

It makes sense that another hominid create may have followed a parallel evolutionary path, having split from homo sapiens eons ago. We already know for sure other hominids did this (Neanderthal).

You’re also correct regarding historical reports. This is in no way a new phenomenon.

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The problem with Todd Standing is that the guy is a certifiable nutjob. I’ve met the man, even spent some time listening to his stories. He does have some compelling stories that I do believe but I am convinced… like many others… that many of his photos are staged and not authentic.
But who knows. The guy is “out there” so it’s kinda hard to filter the truth , if there is any, to his claims and “documentation” .

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I’ve tried to take cellphone video of moose and elk and cougars in close proximatey but every video is shakey and blurry… because with the adrenalin that everyone gets when they are close to these animals makes it near impossible to get a hollywood quality video in the heat of the moment. In my lifetime I have been stalked by a cougar which was a very close call and he was shot in mid air heading straight at me…

… got in a gunfght with a large pack of wolves once, have faced down several momma bears… seen some wild stuff first hand in the bush over the years but they are only stories without video “proof”. I really need a gopro on my head and on my rifle LOL

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Someone above mentioned the possibility these creatures (i.e., sasquatch) may possibly be able to see infrared light from some cameras. It was my understanding that trap cameras are motion activated. If that’s so, why would there be infrared beams of light emanating from them?

That would be a real advantage with Gopros. Aren’t they simply on or off, recording or not recording?

FWIW, while I’m not in the “true believer” camp, it seems to me that these creatures being real is a distinct possibility.

I had a friend, a Native American guy, who had the same kind of experience with a black bear once while he was hunting in the coastal range in Washington state. He told me he was jogging up a hill, and at the same moment that he crested the hill, a black bear crested the hill in the opposite direction. Unusually, the bear charged, probably because they were so close. In my limited experience with black bears (a few encounters), they would rather run than confront, but they were too close for the bear to go anywhere else. My friend was lucky to have been quick with his rifle.

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Unrelated to bigfoot but one time walking around a neighborhood around 1am , and well, This creature up in the trees was making this call sound, and was following us. It was INCREDIBLY creepy. Dont know what it was and dont want to know what it was.

Same area : Different story.

One time me and my buddies wanted to go up in our treehouse at night, and I was scanning the yard with a nice flashlight. As we approached the woods and our treehouse, I scanned the ground again, and come across just something freaky bro. Like… Have you ever seen animals on thermal cameras? Well thats what I saw when I scanned ahead of me. Freaky ass cheshire cat smile, looked maybe young big cat size. dunno what it was, I mean I didnt see it anymore . Maybe a spirit or something. Me and my buddy saw alot of weird shit out there. Saw an orb come out the woods once. Orange like paranormal looking orb.

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I’ve seen blackbears walk on thier hind legs which is quite comical to watch but was also surprised at how well they can walk upright. Most often it was at my aunts orchards in the Okanagan region of BC. The bears would walk from tree to tree biting apples or apricots and would be like that for extended periods of time… walking around eating at they go. But the distinct differences between what I saw that day in the rain … bears have an unmistakeable snout and ears… what I witnessed had no visible ears and absolutely no snout.
Second thing is the front legs of a bear don’t hang naturally to the sides like a human or ape species… they hang with paws pointing forward and hang in the front over the belly basically.
A good thing to watch is old circus bear film footage as they walk and do all kinds of things that mimic human behavior for entertainment but if you pay close attention to thier “arms” there is a distinct difference between how thier front legs function and rest compared to a human or human like entity such as a sasquatch.

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Summer of 1967 I picked fruit in the Okahagan, mostly around Kelowna. Holy crap what a magnificently beautiful place!

I’ll also just say, black bears’ ears are just so damn cute! Those two little black circles on top of that big, black round head! OMG! SO cute!

I believe that’s because, unlike hominids and monkeys, bears lack the bone structure to swing their arms above their heads. That ability is called brachiation, and would be in conflict with moving on all fours, fore-paws flat on the ground and the animal’s back remaining approximately parallel to the ground. Great apes are knuckle walkers rather than “flat-hand” walkers.

And what ever happened to the moderately good apes? And the lousy apes? What happened to them??? HA!

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Eye witness evidence is considered among the least valuable types of testimony in court. We can look at this and say well, theres an obvious bias there because part of that eye witness recounting of oast events is coming from people who are trying to escape prosecution or falsely portray other peoples actions to benefit. But many other tests have corroborated that as well. People tend to wholeheartedly believe in the objective truth of their subjective sensory experience. A person who says, i swear on my life this is exactly how it happens has been shown to be a pretty understandable cognitive bias. How could you go around your day to day life and question the trith of everything you perceive?

I have walked up over a crest, gone around a bend or what have you and run right into various deer, moose, beavers, bobcats, cougars, lynx, birds, bears and other people enough times out in the bush that i dont believe there is 1 creature who is always able to keep totally concealed at all times. People would have more proof from trail cameras and other forms of media than there is. The idea that there’s a population of creatures that is able to keep hidden across such a wide range of habitation is pretty extreme. The creatures would need significant levels of
Intelligence and intergroup coordination to be able to remain hidden till now.

I have encountered decomposing animals, shed antlers, and various things washing up on lake and river sides that i think we would have seen a specimen who died a accidental death away from the group and was decomposing somewhere.

There was a hominid called gigantipithecus we have fossil evidence for in southern china. It was a ape sized primate that could easily have been responsible for the cultural legend that exists among so many people and it could potentially have adapted to cold weather and crossed the bering strait into north america. We have seen through research of oral history of groups like the north american and australian indigenous populations that we know oral histories can survive for tens of thousands of years. Both cultural areas have stories where people have stories that corroborate the existence of extinct animals and physical locations that were lost to natural disasters, floods, earthquakes, etc.

Though there is no direct fossil evidence if a range expansion that size. Not to say it didn’t happen, just that there’s no positive confirmation as of yet. These were like other modern large apes, herbivores who ate leafy greens and such, they needed to exist in climates with yearlong growth of plants, temperate areas would have been the limit of their expansions most likely.

We know that other species like the neanderthals, denisovans and other relict archaic humans also coexisted with humans and where wiped/absorbed into our group out for one reason or another. This is important because a key trait that all these groups shared is the ability to be great generalist subsistence strategy hunter/gatherers. They could survive and thrive in a variety of different ecozones and time periods and seemed to live across huge ranges. Unlike herbivore species of primates that do require a climate that is warm and temperatefor plant growth year round.

There is a lot of evidence against the existence of bigfoot living presently and only a few questionable ones for its existence

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