Lets just say I won a few contests. I was really disappointed to see the other contestants sporting extracts I wouldn’t slot in my pipe with a gun to my head.
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Ok heres something. … i just shucked a fully seeded plant, in fact it took me 10 gawddamm minutes to deseed enough to smoke a bowl
lol, super frustrating
My point is, that bowl still kicked my ass 
so the whole adage that a plant pools its resources to make seeds instead of THC, i don’t take much stock in that without further scientific evidence THC is a basic result of stress response for a plant to protect itself, and many genetics have various potentials to “protect itself”.
I honestly think a plant is resilient enough to multitask and still produce copius THC while producing seeds or repairing wounds, etc. . … to an extent… too much stress in one direction certainly ruins that balance
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i never did either. i’ve gotten high as hell off of the shit i grew for seeds. never once thought to just get rid of it or not smoke or partake of it. males too, those pollen sacks will mess you up good if you put them into the crock pot and make budder out of them.
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The problem is it tastes like popcorn. Nasty!
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Same here. It takes forever to make a bowl, and there are always seeds popping anyway. And yeah usually the herb is worth smoking too.
Almost 5 years has passed since I smoked anything worth mentioning, all those 30%+ THC strains are either a lie or just bad breeding.
In 2005-2018 we smoked the best, 18-22% thc weed that will knock any of those 30% strains outta the park.
Something happened to the game, it’s very hard to put my finger on it, LEDs, bad genetics, bad breeding practices, I dunno…
True drug type weed today is extinct, better switch to opium.
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I can get behind this.
Everything I like smoking came from the 80’s/90’s. All the modern stuff is garbage imo. Just got that bag appeal.
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I’ve been through a small experience stretching a few years around opiates. I didn’t get to try all the opiates I could consume but it got boring and old real quick…
I still say cannabis more versatile and enjoyable in the long run.
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I think I might be most in agreement with you but I have little experience with most strains that have ran outside the '12-'15 era.
I want to build it up and gain as much experience and as fast as possible while I am able to legally grow ~60 plants in my state for my multiple elderly/disabled&low-income patients that I am eagerly in pursuit of affording genetics due to a lack of funds(things will hopefullychange a bit this year). I really and truly want to do better for my health and the health of my patients by offering a proper variety that will hopefully find something that works for their troubling ailments.
I know for a fact the entourage effect holds good truth. I got donated some mid-tier CBD bud that most didn’t work well until I combined it with thc-dominant buds that tended to have a better buzz and better medical effects than either alone. I loved mixing different varieties and finding which pleased me most, which tasted best, which gave me a unique buzz, which gave me a roaring-high , etc… there is definitely more to it than just thc… …like the untested cannabinoids/other substances that could be discovered in some of the long flowering sativas that just have a truly unique buzz/profile…
Now that I can grow, I want to grow as many varieties as I can while I am able. 
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Careful, it’s additive… Growing and genetics that is. 
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It’s not extinct just uncommon in common places , all of the things you mentioned have played a part , large commercial growers grow what there buyers want and the buyers buy what the consumer wants. What the consumer wants used to be mostly decided by personal experience and up close inspection , now it’s mostly influenced by social media …
LED lights have a huge learning curve and a lot are junk in regards to there spectrum
Inbreeding depression is real and so is hybrid vigor it’s seems in the past people strived to have something unique and different and now they treat it like elite pedigrees where if some hype strain from the last 5 years is not part of it it’s not worth posting. Less people making clones but those who are are making more then ever flooding the market with inter related plants and selling seeds of those same family trees.
A lot of stuff is starting to experience bottlenecking , there are breeders who understand this and do what they can but that brings us back to the consumer , most people buying seeds are hunting some hype strain or elite clone only in seed form…. There are a lot of people who run cannabis grows and business now that were never involved and are screwing all kinds of things up from growing to handling methods.
I’ve grown strains that are awesome but if you get them at a storefront they are miss to unsmokable 90% of the time.
The culture has changed , the game is now a pissing contest and the consumer is left with a shadow of what the industry should and could be.
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Right? It’s ironic how legalization has made the weed buying experience worse in so many ways. Before I bought a sack, the dealer would smoke some of it with me wile I got to smell, squeeze, and inspect the bag. You knew it was good right then and there.
In the dispensary? Everything is sealed in plastic and best they can do is shine a light on it. Once you get home it all tastes the same… Cardboard.
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used to be decided by whatever made it into your area. some crossing the border, some homegrown, some hydro from wherever. i was fortunate to have grown up across the river from meigs county oh and the homegrown i had was better than most but i still recall fondly buying smoke out of the trunk of a car then smoking it out of a popcorn bag at a football game as a teen, just like cheech and chong.
then there was the shit you got from stroker’s house (he’s been dead for years so i can name him) that was fire, 3 hit shit. he always burned one with you and put the roach in a jar he used to break out at the new year’s party. he burned one with us once when i got a board out of my truck to get his bike into the bar one night. ran everyone out with smoke from it while we were standing there watching, passing it back and forth on the steps.
other than those two types of smoke, i wouldn’t trust this memory any further to try to compare it today with then. i mean some of it today is generic, same high, same smell, but some of it is pretty good. not great, but i don’t have to worry about getting busted, no more waiting for a week because it’s dry, no more wondering what got put in it to make it more potent. it’s at least as safe as the processed food i eagerly devour and i do have a license to grow my own which are not doing too bad - need to update the grow log - maybe i’m just lucky or using a tolerant perspective.
we used to dream about when mj became legal while smoking and now it (somewhat) is. as soon as the easy money is all gone we’ll just step up and take our seed stock and do what need to do. nothing is gone, lost forever, unless we let it go get lost. just keep your head down and don’t draw attention until they eat themselves.
or not, i could be wrong. not like it hasn’t happened before. have a great day everyone.
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I dunno what to say…
We have a big magazine in my country that is highly praised by med and rec users alike, I think it’s nice aswell, all the comments there are so negative about the stuff that’s going around…
Like across the board, not one strain is worth it ? Not one grow op ?
Not so long ago people won’t dare putf my joints, they knew I wasn’t playing, that shit ko my aswell many times, why can’t we find something like that anymore ?
How come outdoor bud became better all of a sudden ? Better than any med op or private in my country… I don’t get it, it’s a huge conspiracy and no one is talking about it besides customer complaint
Which can be thrown on any parameter and miss the target each time
The pictures all around of low light output systems, leds, people that think leds is alien tech and put it 2m from canopy… whatever… plants with stalks not trichomes only add to this stupid hype
But every picture I see the endless stalks I get horrified to be honest, they are abundt in the
med/rec grows here, there’s a company even named Trichome but you sure won’t find one in their bud 
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Intresting! it’s easy to get hooked on the growing and genetics side of things. But, if it’s a healthy addiction, who’s complaining? 
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I started growing just under a year ago and joined the OG community around the same time. I had never bought anything from a dispensary and honestly visiting one was off putting, I can say that I’m glad for being ignorant about the associated social media stuff. Hell I was so dumb I didn’t even know you could buy seeds online when I started. Luckily my local organic shop had some and after doing some research on what I thought I wanted, I bought something else from them, lol. But after visiting a lot of seedbank websites and reading along through OG, I became of aware of the “FOTM” push. I bought seeds from a popular seedbank online, was less impressed than the seeds from an unknown breeder from my local guys did and that was with my many beginners mistakes. I can see the value of using some of the older, established strains but my knowledge is the roadblock there for me. I’m happier with learning and testing with unknown breeders and tester seed packs from guys like Brothers Grimm than riding the popularity train. I have become quite interested in higher thc strains simply because my local grow shop does thc testing about once a month for the customers that are interested in the medical side of things and or making edibles, they run a leaderboard worth nothing more than bragging rights but I find it mildly fascinating. My 4th grow is up on deck as grow 3 is finishing out with 5 brothers grimm plants and 2 Gods Breath clones(my 1st go round with high thc strains) and am excited for the chance to finally get to experience it myself. Dang that morning coffee really got me rambling here…lol
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I take ZERO stock in “weed was better back in my day”. No it wasn’t.
It likely either had paraquat or any number of molds in it that probably fucked you up. Either that, or decades of littering your body with various substances hadn’t yet caught up to you in your 20’s, but in your 40s-50s your dumpster-fire of a body can’t process drugs as efficiently as it used to 
You can’t dispute the numbers, fellas.
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In my opinion, it’s all about the ratios of secondary metabolites and the unique biochemistry of a given individual.
Why though, is modern cannabis seemingly lacking compared to the older selections? I think it’s because of unnecessary prohibition across the past century. Communities and cultures growing and selecting enjoyable and useful effects for mellenia were fractured and have been disenfranchised. I’d imagine the quality of work declined drastically.
Selections bottlenecked without adequate populations having the fitness to maintain or restore the former glory. Resources shifted and it impacted the fitness of seed populations. I don’t think it’s any wonder why the “best” modern stuff is seemingly the last reflections of yesteryear before going “indoors”. Before going away from traditional cultivation and selection techniques. This is not to say that indoor is bad, on the contrary it can be great.
Thousands of years of selections for what worked well got derailed by prohibition. Now there are just a few faint reflections of that antiquated work.
As the plants are able to be worked in larger numbers again, across various geographical locations, I feel that the quality will observably improve. Similarly, as greenhouse and indoor techniques evolve, so too will the quality. Many blessings and much love
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True that. There’s records of numerous literal clone-only cuts being lost to raids. Not to mention seedlines too.
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If you think weed today is better than 10+ years ago weed you probably never smoked it.
Another explanation is you only smoked the shitty weed of that time and I do agree it was worse.
Not to discredit you or anything I don’t know you, but 95% of weed today can’t reach the heels of 2000 weed, people complain about it all around in my country.
The other 5% is those elite cuts @HolyAngel talked about, which are worth today so much money (thank you legalise) that no one in their right mind will give you clones or seeds from it, everything else is a shadow of elite lines before this business was lining peoples pockets to the roof.
Any other breeder today claims he has cuts that even millionaires can’t acquire lol
It hasn’t been genetic drift it’s breeders drift
Everyone is selfing or f1 seed packs that allegedly came from elites, pushing more males into genetic pools along the way, making it even harder for the normal guy to grow something decent
The whole game is rigged, don’t tell me weed is better, 20 years ago every seed I put in the dirt came out fire, rarely I got a meh pheno
Today it’s the opposite, what do ya know…
And btw, numbers lie because humans determine them according to their methods which I doubt you and I know.
End rant
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