We get trained in o.s.h.a. first responder class that Co2 displaces oxygen and that’s what the occupational limits are based on. Burners not only consume a hydrocarbon the reaction requires oxygen. But if you ever worked in a cold climate in a garage using a propane heater the good blue flame goes yellow and then goes out below a 14:1 ratio (don’t hold me to the ratio) that’s why a propane tank will not immediately explode when shot by a weapon. I would not recommend using higher levels of Co2 in a House/apartment/room you live in. you must use a ventilation system .the larger the room the longer it takes to vent. A 4" inline fan will not vent a room unless it has an equally powered inlet fan and then it will only exchange the volume of the typical bathroom 5 times an hour. Which is why we have a Co2 ppm meter in the room with fire suppression.
But with good ventilation can yoiu keep co2 ppm 1300 in your room?
Sorry led, but my english is not perfect, so i dont understand what you say exactly. So in conclusion do i need ventilation in this room or no?
Absolutely positively must have ventilation
If you are running a “Burner” you need ventilation. If you are running compressed CO2 it is not necessary. Air movement in the room is a huge must below and above the canopy…
It is only OK if you have a death wish Co2 will still displaces the oxygen (O2) REGARDLESS of the source it is not safe if it comes from the bottle. Please heed this safety warning.
Under no circumstances is it permissable to use Co2 without a ventilation system you can die being in the unvented room. If you are sleeping in that room you will die.
We are talking “Sealed Growing room” not a bed room, not a kitchen, not your garage or any other living area.
Not sure why you on the topic of OSHA guidelines, or any other health safety concerns. Who sleeps in a controlled grow room?
I point out OSHA safety standards to reinforce that I have experience and training in the proper handling and use of Co2. who sleeps in their grow room ? Hundreds if not thousands of Closet growers.
Why does it seem that you must rationalize bad if not deadly advice?
It is still a fact that Co2 displaces usable oxygen, the more Co2 used the more oxygen displaced. noobs screwing around with balloons or trying out vinegar/reactions are wasting time and money those methods produce so little that you would need a block of baking soda the size of a Buick and quarts if not gallons of vinegar reality is those other methods are cruel jokes your own exhaling breath raises Co2 more. Only bottles and burners produce enough to be effective both systems use pressure regulators that occasionally fail, burners control a gaseous hydrocarbon that will also kill you . The only difference is you might smell the leak . Co2 is odorless. A malfunctioning burner could blow up your location. Would you use a propane barbecue grill indoors? If so Darwin’s law will apply.
My question was who sleeps in a “controlled grow room”. If your gonna quote me at least quote what I say please and not change my words.
If we were talking “closet grower” CO2 wouldn’t even be in the conversation. This isn’t Rollitup…
Led thank you, saved my life once again!
LOL. sealed grow room means exactly that, sealed with no air in no air out. usually when running co2 you’d want a sealed grow room so as to maintain your high levels of co2 otherwise if you’re venting it out you’re just wasting money. usuallyed used in combination with controller and monitor!
Ok We don’t allow Meme to illustrate point of views outside of the Shark Tank. I stand alone as a moderator by saying there are certain risks to growing indoors and outdoors.
I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong here. We don’t allow meme to insult members. Just argue to the facts. Please carry on with your discussion. @Uncle_Al @LED_Seedz
Posts in this topic were flagged by members. I’ve deleted one post from @Uncle_Al and one post from @LED_Seedz…
Both were off topic and heading towards personal attacks having no factual arguments.
Personally I welcome all opinions.
I see nothing wrong giving advise to closet growers. We don’t know under which circumstances @Kingtut grows so let’s assume that he might be in danger.
It is reasonable to warn him imho.
I agree. But you can simply call that advise bad and move on. There is absolutely no need to make any personal notes - that only leads to retaliation and heating the debate.
As you said it is on the reader to make his own picture and ask refinement questions. We can’t force anyone to take over our views, but we can bring factual arguments into table.
I appreciate your discussion! If we all had the same views there wouldn’t be any place for OG ;). Opposing views are what moves us forward!
I’ve worked in enriched environments, I dont really feel all that safe doing that. I’ll keep a door open when I am working in the garden., But the potential is there to cause a problem. Failed regulators, monoxide, leaking gas, you really are adding an X factor to the grow. When I was working this one garden I kept a sign on the inside and outside of the grow warning about co2. .
i want to get a co2 monitor but they’re so expensive… i just have a 4x4 tent so i’ve been keeping a couple bottles half full of water sugar and yeast with no cap on them and changing em out every couple weeks, maybe thats what attracted my gnats
I just bought a recording Co2 meter online , I think I paid $88.00 + shipping , so I don’t have to “borrow” the one from work. It records time,ppm, temperature and humidity, it has an alarm setting for to high of levels I will know precisely what level I am achieving and I will know how long it actually takes to vent, it is necessary to allow the plant to respirate naturally during lights out, it is necessary to vent before entering grow area.yes the fermentation process is what attracted the bugs, it is also a waste of time and energy trying to enrich Co2 that way, entertaining sure! you felt like you were trying. But now put your energy and attention in a direction that will matter. Bottles and burners are the only way to get enough Co2 to be worth your while, O.K. you might use evaporating dry ice but it just pisses away uncontrolably. If you must play in Co2 do it safely, please follow my safety advice and warnings.
oh cool i thought meters were several hundred dollars. the reason i tried the homemade generators was i saw this video where they got it up to almost 2200ppm after 10 hours. by 2 hours it was up almost 500 and by 5 hours it had raised it almost 1000 already.
A real Co2 system will reach levels NOW not in ten hours in ten hours it is close to time to start venting, that’s wasting time and energy and attracting bugs
