M0sirys small tent experiences

[m0sirys]

@InTheWoods

I forgot your in Rock wool Doh!
I have zero experience in that medium.

thanks for your kind words brotha

Yes, I’ve been using rock wool for about 20 years now and have always done well with it. I also have my great mentor to thank for that. There are many advantages to rock wool. Cost point per m² easy disposal in terms of volume. The weight pallet from the slabs weighs far less than one with earth bags! As a home grower they are certainly toal no matter, but commercially that’s something else. but the best thing of all is the control.

I will definitely grow with other media again and try other nutrients. There’s just too much cool shit out there. But at the moment I’m still working on the things I’ve started and I’m going to plan a grow room, or rather a small chamber. Tents are good and do a great job. But I have something in mind that I want to realize. I’ll have to get the drawing board out if I can find it. Otherwise I’ll have to use the cad

[ifish]

Do you use calmag ?

[m0sirys]

i use calcnitrit and epson salt,

ppm/l on the right side

[ifish]

When in veg the plant is just cruising so we give a balanced type feed 1/1/1 ,10/10/10, 12/11/13 etc etc
But after about 3-4weeks plant gradually runs low on pk , so we give some bloom feed to top her up

Especially grow annnnd calmag as the calmag has more n in it so mix in relation has less pk
P for roots k for plant health ( vibrancy of the green )

I feed 1/2/2 bloom type plus add calmag
So mix is like 1/1.5/1.5 as it changed with the added n
We don’t need to know exact ratio , we just need a feel for what we pushing , if I feel they too light on occasion I will just give a feed or two of my stretch feed ( 1/1/1 and calmag to top up n )
Now with this mix I can just feed and not need top up of bloom anymore
Plus good for mums as pk nice level
Plants will be a lighter green but nice vibrant green
And we don’t worry cuz in stretch which is next we will be pushing n as plant now really growing leaf and stem plus the extra n will be stored in leafs as a safety bank for in flo as backup as we push pk again
This is the opposite to feeding grow and topping up with pk but a lot more benifits
It’s easier quicker to fix n deff than p or k def plus it’s easier to spot n def and is less damaging

Worse case n def and you lose a couple of lower fans ( no big deal ) but p or k or both defs affects all of plant and is harder to spot and then fix
One of the bonuses of the feed shedual is your always pushing something at different stages , that means if there is going to be a def , it will be the element your are not pushing so thats what you keep an eye out for ( no difficult thinking ) always in control
But in general there is no defs as you feeding plant what it wants for the job it wants to do at that particular stage with this feeding
Are plants are in veg and about to be flipped to 12/12
They have been on a slightly more pk than n in ratio , so leafs are lush green vibrant , not dark
Sure we may have lost one or two lower fans as we dial in but sure we would be cleaning them up anyway as we tidy up plant before flip
In stretch plant has a burst of growing leaf and stem so that’s what we give it , 30/30/30 plus calmag ( n in there ) pushes n in ratio
Any left over n will be stored in leafs and in stretch we don’t need to worry about pk as leafs already packed with it from veg , plus in 2-3 weeks time we be back to pushing pk for flower , so in stretch leafs are darker green

Once buds the size of your baby fingernail appear we go into flower mode
1/2/2/ or 1/3/2 ( jacks ) so now we pushing pk again
If we were to keep pushing n the plant would have to share its flowering power with growing leafs to store extra n in them , waste of energy , leafy buds less smells etc )

What ever ppm/ec you at at start of flower is your bench mark for your base feed up to start of finish
So every time you mixing more food same base ppm/ec butttttt you raise feed with pk as weeks progress

Now at about w8 on a 10w strain you will see some individual or small clusters of calyx fattening
This is the plant starting to ripen
Now the curve of growing new bud starts to tail off , you can A . Keep feeding high pk and squeeze more bud from the cola but after some time the Extra bud to electric will not be worth it ( excess foxtailing ) plus you will have extended your grow time
B . Decide to go to finish stage.
to grow bud the plant needs p and k togeather in evenish good supply , sooooo if we drop a lot of the p but still keep good k in ratio the plant is forced to finish ( 1/2/5 ) and the k will keep plant healthy to end with just p and n fade and not fried leafs from k def

So if you got extra time or that pheno or strain enjoys it you can push longer at end of flower or if you have more Sativa leaner you can force an earlier finish
So all in all
You have 3 feeds
1/3/2 for veg and base for flowering
30/30/30 for stretch
And 6/12/30 for finish ( at original base flower eec/ppm )

And a bottle of pk
And calmag

Now your growing like formula one race team

[saxo]

hey Mr Fish,hows it?
thats an intresting read …also for a soil-guy like me

[ifish]

It works for every medium
Butt not coco
The idea behind it works on coco but you would have to adjust for cations ( headache ) but for everything else it works a treat

: )

[ifish]

You always in control with that shedual

Plus when penny drops it teaches you to be a better grower

[m0sirys]

yeah thanks alot for the input. some good info thank you brother,

Actually, I don’t really have any problems because I do more or less what you describe. Have you seen them Sour Diesels from me? . I didn’t have this amount of new white hairs before SSH, In some cases it can also be due to the genetics, or of course my nutrients, I will simply grow my WC with the same mixture of nutrients next time. And then incorporate all the information from you into a new series of experimentsn.

That way nothing gets mixed up. I always like to prepare everything before I test otherwise the whole test would make no sense. @ifish If it ok Iĺl drop you a Dm when I have recalculated and created everything. must first install hydrobuddy again and enter everything. have to redo my os and forgot to save the database.

[ifish]

Yes no problem

Just remember I use oldschool traditional ratios not elemental ratios ( hydrobuddy )
So you would need to convert back to traditional to see if you in the zone

Don’t get anal with the numbers , close is good enough , you just pushing in right direction , does not need to be super precise

I found it easier to just buy close as I can to ratios needed , saves alottttt of hassle

People pay say £15 on cannabis branded 1 litre 1.2 / 0.9 / 1.1
I buy 20/20/20 non cannabis related fert for £10 per kilo ( do the maths , save you lots of money in long run and time / stress not mixing two ratios to make one )

1/2/2-1/3/2 what ever avail

1/1/1

1/2/5
Pk
Calmag

Is all that is needed

[George]

Bookmarked, great info there , thanks for sharing…

[ifish]

Happy everyone enjoyed it : )

[m0sirys]

good morning Overgrow!

So we have arrived at flowering day 91. Apart from the fact that they are starting to look more and more autumnal, otherwise nothing new . Iĺl give them another couple of days and than chop them.

I’m already looking forward to putting something new in the tent . My mother’s space will thank me.

!

have a great day and stay safe and healthy

[TopShelfTrees1]

Good morning @m0sirys looking great in there! Bet it smells awesome in there. I hear you about your mom room thanking you trust me

[m0sirys]

thank you ! yeah the smell is aamazing, still citrus and sandlewood. II only ever open the tent briefly because the smell lingers in the apartment for a long time

I didn’t really expect(/hoped) 13+ weeks of flowering. My mothers had to endure hard pruning . Time to start new ones soon. rockwool will finally land in the next few days

[TopShelfTrees1]

I hear you on that…. I was without plugs for a few days and needed them bad . I’m at the point I need to do some serious pruning too. 13 weeks is a lot , I prefer 10-11 weekers myself. Preferably 8 but I find the stuff I like usually lands in that timeframe

[m0sirys]

@TopShelfTrees1

I prefer 10-11 weekers myself. Preferably 8 but I find the stuff I like usually lands in that timeframe

10-11 weeks is what i like the most. depending on the strain you can remove the main cola at week 8 and give the lower 1/2 more light for the rest of the flowering. weight wise it can be sometimes a gamechanger

[TopShelfTrees1]

Soooo true! Thats the best way actually imo

[m0sirys]

Good morning @ all OG`S

I hope you’re all doing well!

After 94 days of flowering, the ladies have fallen. The smell is simply enchanting, sometimes like lighting a stick of incense, only wetter or fresher. I think you know what I mean. The scent that comes out the strongest is sandalwood with a peak of citrus, which is so macant that I would call it a haze scent.

What surprised me is the quantity… Even if the buds are not super dense and compact. It doesn’t look bad in terms of quantity in my opinion, but we’ll see… All in all, a relaxed grow with no real problems.
The only real problem was that it messed up my schedule. @HighTilliHow many weeks did I finish after you? That’s crazy, isn’t it? Where we sent the ladies into flowering at about the same time! But all’s well that ends well!

So here are a few pictures of the fun! I hope you like them.

Wish you all a great day my gowmigos stay safe and enjoy

[InTheWoods]

Hip Hip Hooray!

Happy harvest brotha!

@m0sirys

After 94 days of flowering

Makes me wonder how long she would continue to flower for.

Are you making bubble hash with the trim? I bet it would be some epic tasting hash.

[m0sirys]

@InTheWoods

Makes me wonder how long she would continue to flower for.

thank you
me too. i have saved her as a small mother, so there surely will be a second run sometimes. . my guess is that she goes easily over 100 day+
but now i growe something that will flower for a shorter time, probably wc, at the last round of wc i had to throw them out in the third week because of space that hurt.