hello hello,
wow hot discussion… 
the haze the haze… so much to tell…
so many opinions and so many solutions …
it’s too much in begin… there are so many things to cover…
but keep all in mind … all those are personal experience …
for example… if someone say that strain is killer…
some may have totally different experience and say it’s trash … or I’ll don’t get why it’s killer etc…
with the haze… you can’t grow it like a typical hybrid or a bred strain that has 90 day’s flowering time… haze needs way longer and if you fail after the 90 day’s to keep her happy you will never get the result you’re looking for… it#s really not easy and to me the hardest strain to grow and manage … it responds to all technics very well like topping in later state for all other tortoure …
only big mistake you can do is over feeding … especially N … once done … most time it’s fucked up… haze loves under feeding and the color lime green … if it’s get to dark green (if not a pheno’) than you can see that yield etc are not like the lime green’s … and it will stretch also in late flower… haze stretches min first 6-8 weeks under 11/13 and one plant can easy fill a big tent if you let her go … it’s the most vigorous plant I’ll know… all crosses have the same behavior … doesn’t matter if it’s a small 1 meter semi auto landrace … or full auto’s that go max 1.5m outdoors … become more than 4m after touching the haze …
improve the haze… yes possible… but you need a field with like 10000 plants or more… than select the 10 best from those and make seeds… or better reverse the best girls after smoking … like 10 best haze girls x 10 best haze girls reversed … works … I’ll showed that already …
but what is your goal and my goal
me with limited possibilities (no greenhouse yet) can only select from max 24 plants @ one run… so I’ll did a few run’s to find those I’ll have now … same over the years with all other I’ve grown and smoked… if smoke was good I’ll keep the cut and flower it a second time to verify also with friends… making music … so it’s easier hehe … also @ work many enjoy the herb … that feedback is what makes my selection over the years… and what I’ll use for breeding… after talking with Sam early when I’ll startet I’ll got a good starting point and it worked out very well so far… I’ll can’t do big numbers but I’ll can do it like Sam has described in " Sun, Soil, Seeds & Soul" … and that was/is my way to do it … and after finishing the first crosses and flowering them I’ll can confirm that this method works… also with the haze … like when I’ll mixed Seedsman x Golli or Sam’s last x Golli and also a great landrace like Zamal, Thai Stick, Malawi or Caledonia with the haze… but I’ll use a haze male to make hybrids and maybe that makes a little difference to others and also Sam’s hybrids in the 90’… he used only haze girls… and finally the crossing again to the haze gives me what I’m looking for …
i’ll do it for me in first place… I’ll want the best smoke I’ll can get… that’s the main reason why I’ll startet this … and if others like the work… perfect… than I’m not alone and that makes also really happy… sure but first is the effect/high it gives… not how she looks or smells or how long she takes etc… the effect is what I’m looking for … my goal is not to bred a super sativa that looks amazing but has no real effect or short duration… it’s good for pictures and promotion … but waste of time… the best OHz from Golli gave me the best effect… over 4 hours with no come down… it was like on MDMA and LSD same time but not so wired stand… I’ll still could do something and was full functional … only heavy dry mouth and speak was different… it never got bored or I’ll got used to it… it’s in all the hazes but you have to find those… and if they are fucked up like inbreed … best way is to outcross and backcross to the haze in my opinion after trying different methods … but also here we have lot’s of possibilities … like use a haze girl or male … a reversed girl/girl’s … and that is what I’m doing now … figure out the best way to get the full haze flavor back…
the best OHz
@TomHill … back to haze
here the last special crosses going into flower mode… all from seed … no topping…
Manga Rosa x OHz … looks like a perfect haze hybrid…
Zamal/Ohz x OHz
A5/OHz x OHz
Caledonia/OHz x OHz
Zamal/OHz x OHz
and here this outdoor bangers … all those mothers where true good auto’s from Dutch Passion that where chosen after smoke test…
- Auto SFV OG
- Auto Skywalker Haze** - Sativa
- Auto Lemon Kix* - Sativa
- Auto Mimosa Punch
- Auto Orange Bud - Sativa
- Auto Cinderella Jack - Sativa
- Auto Mac#1*
- IRAQ BABYLON (Landrace)
more next…
thx
M.