This would be a good application of machine learning from images. It would be feasible to train an AI to count the tricrome heads and the leaf area from an image. Take a few pictures from different spots at a consistent magnification/distance and you would have a solid metric for comparison.
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So are the Autos you are making a 1:1 pairing of haze male with a female Autoflowing plant? Then they would be an “early/fast” version instead of a true auto in the F1 generation, right? I saw them listed as “autos” on your website but I found it confusing because they looked like an F1 cross of an auto and a photoperiod plant, and I thought that true autos would only be found in the F2 generation.
Seems to be a fool’s errand, people can over fertilize/stress to hell to achieve maximum trichs but that doesn’t make it medicinal or quality
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yes you’re right…
they are semi auto and will change that…
had it mixed… have also true auto’s eg auto x auto reversed …
works good but don’t like those tiny plants 
thx
M.
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Yes, I prefer the “smoke it and find out” method myself. 
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I have a field that is low density but 120 μm avg. size heads? Wonder if the trichomes are not dry sandy but greasy type that are associated or found in tropicals?
Do I need a type that has greater than eight cells in the head? Do all trichomes have the long capitate stalks or can some grow in later to fill in and increase the density of the field?
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Whoah what did i say that was a good one lol. Mac i triple checked it man stuff left your door labled toms best and landed on mine and it was brutal, brutal.
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Was i talking double haplois breeding lol? What did i say?
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Not trichome density. Trichome field density x trichome head size. I was out of it and am too lazy to backread. Double haploid breeding is pretty useles without haulting crossovers for a true reverse breeding. They pulled this off at uc davis some years back but i dont think cannabis protocol has been worked out. Yes i open pollinate haze mostly. More intensive selection method seem to be mostly ego driven and far outside my version of reality.
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Not, interested in debating bro science. Maybe look into agronomy and other plant sciences for linear answers. There are different types of trichomes, I mentioned this last yearish but the research (Hammond and Mahlberg ) is old. Input changes output and trichome composition/morphology is “highly variable”.
Biochem and Plant Physiology especially.
Analysis and review of trichomes in plants | BMC Plant Biology | Full Text.
Basically, I came in here and you were talking about everyone needs to catch up and learn these simple physics etc. I said go on about said physics then isn’t the study of trichomes bio. You were like nah man sliver slice contains everything. I got confused on parochial. English was not my first language it doesn’t seem that’s the way you’d use that but idk. Then after all that you revealed you just open pollinate which I am not against. The superiority complex not so much. I got involved, didn’t need to.
Average forum stuff.
https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nph.16283
They already use trichome analysis in breeding of other plants as well. Tea especially. So not stuff no one is looking into.
Comparison
A lot of washers have high quantity of larger capitate stalked trichome structures as well. This is why composition is important. There is UV-B and other stressors as well as Crop Steering/Agronomy Manipulations.
Try googling using biology instead of physics.
Versus thinking of size of trichome is composition. Trichomes have instruction DNA. Some trichomes will produce more “secondary” cannabinoids vs THC type and vise versa as well as other compounds.
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Very nice work. My grow space is height limited so I have to bust my butt training if I grow lanky strains. So I miss out on a couple good smokes. Keep up the good work
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Thank you! I agree personally i rarley feed only when necessarry. The smoke is so much better and smoother.
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more haze…
pic’s tell more than words
this is the most thin leaf pheno’ I’ll have … very very tiny resin glads but many … the fasciated is Sam’s fav from high but yield is low… it’s an old cut from Golli’s OHz… to me it resembles the Punto Rojo with it’s slender sexy leaf’s … the other two have more belly in the leaf… not much but you can see that…
Manga Rosa
some of the haze top#s … they start now already to produce some resin
happy growin’
M.
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Please @MadMac at what latitude you grow outdoor ?
I want to try hazes outdoor but I live near Paris (France)
I have hope because maybe with a good greenhouse it can do the job
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ohhh Paris… city of love…
was there often in my youth hehe
it’s from 2001 … made with Russian panorama camera … self developed the film and image… made also some super 8 ART movies there
well the pure haze will finish only in greenhouse… but you need sun to finish…
or you use extra light like the new Sanlight led … very efficient …
for those sativa’s … they are really hard… no problem with very cold nights… germinate also with low temp’s… but @ day they need min 18°C to produce THC … if less they don’t do much… also strong light helps… if you do greenhouse like me next year… get solar panels and a battery … than you have it for free after 3 years … it’s not expensive anymore… and next year better battery & cheaper too… for outdoors in Paris or close to Paris you need plant that finish last end October … like my outdoor haze varieties… can tell you after smoke test in January who is the closest to da haze…
thx
M.
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What kind of scents/aromas did you find on that Golli? Also what about the manga Rosa?
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the Golli Ohz is wilder and has all those common smells inclusive catpis …
I’ll love the Vick Vaporub (Grains of Paradise) smell most also the high …
you have some pine there too…
Manga Rosa has a real Mango smell… asked my wife to verify with fresh cut Mango … the Mango Haze is close too… the Manga was old gear from Luis when he startet BSC …
M.
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I also loves Vicks vapor rub smell - I classify those types into different categories, mint, menthaly, tea tree oil, eucalyptus, wintergreen, catnip mint hybrid like the trident gum, the list goes on. I found some wintergreen/mint phenos in Punto Rojo CBG line. Absolutely love those types!!! However I think the Vicks vapor rub is a bit more rich/complex in its profile, kind of like tiger balm for sore muscles
Thanks for sharing the feedback, envisioning trying all of these when the opportunity presents itself 
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Oh ya man theres for sure lots of variation on the mentholated terps. Lol you forgot camphor and mothballs i find those alot in hazey cultivars. Personally i love the mothball smells,wife hates it reminds her of grannys house to keep moths away from eating the sweaters 
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NO
there is no camphor and mothballs in the haze i’ve gown…
only in haze hybrid i’ve testet from others…
but definitiv no camphor and mothballs in all my hazes i’ll have
M.
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