Well spoken @US3RNAM3
A great description of Dilution
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Wheres your indoor tent grows of pure sativa non diluted? Come on now back up what your preaching to me. I get what your saying but cmon bro your being a bit ridiculous. This is silly all were saying is its OKAY to hybridize haze or any tropical sativa with an indica lol. I and headies12green are just homegrowers. I dont sell clones, seeds, flowers etc, and dont promote them as a real unadultered pure haze. Idk why were even having this chat its silly.
Why do you care if someone wants a haze hybrid to grow inside? Does it really matter lol? Theres not a law that states sativas cant be crosses with an indica to make a more manageable plant. Tbh im willing to bet even these pure hazes you like have had an indica introduced at some point to stabilize it, Im done arguing this. You want pure sativa the only buy or grow pure sativas. I dont tell nor care what anybody does with there grows or genetics. Yall are confused we are not breeders hurting a genepool by growing a couple plants in a tent 
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Nah man youāre trying way too hard hereā¦ haha haze is a nice strain but slow down on this fantasy of it being the ultimate king of cannabis. Glad you like it but watching people spend months and months on a baby foxtail sativa doesnāt really excite me. Itās all about preference anyways there are no hard and fast rules. Try growing some other strains if you do it all and might appreciate the whole spectrum of cannabinoids
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Howdy yāall, please respect that this is Mad Macās thread. He seems to be about positive vibes and good intentions. The antagonistic drama and such has played out enough in the other threads and on the other forums. Perhaps those with a lot of questions brush up on the history and story thatās already been written. I donāt think this is the place to rehash everything.
For what itās worth, a quote from the man that brought Original Haze to the masses, Sam_Skunkman over on Icmag in the questions for sam the skunkman on the original haze thread:
I really do not like Original Haze hybrids that use WLD Indica to make powerful Hazes, they are strong but often lack the pure Sativa high the I prefer. Itās easy though.
There is also a post where Sam talks about working the Original Haze to an early Sativa, itās an incredibly insightful comment as it relates to working towards improving and hybridizing Haze. There are posts with members growing Original Haze and THH indoors with relative success. @MadMac grows them indoors well. Whatās wrong with the plants in the pictures at the beginning of the thread? Perhaps reading some of the smoke reports or trying some yourself may change your tune.
Tule Fog was Haze x Deep Chunk
Monkey Haze is Deep Chunk x Haze
Theyāve been made already a long time ago.
Itās all been said. Sam also says for people to make hybrids of haze with their favorite types because he understands we all have unique taste. Even still, his preference seems to be for pure Original Haze that hasnāt been hybridized. That should count for something I think. Can we please get this topic back to Mad Macās work? There are plenty of THH and Sam_Skunkman threads to yammer on about these things. Many blessings and much love
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Im done posting on this, I dont need to be enlightened about genetics. Ive grown plenty of haze inside, i posted a pic of my nevilles haze earlier lol I was only explaining my thoughts on my question to Tom, then people freak out. You confirmed what ive been saying too btwā¦ārelative successā. I appreciate what your saying but your telling the wrong guy.
I just dont like how all this is from me asking Tom if hes ever crossed his haze to dc or ptk. I just wanted username to back up what hes preaching to me about pure hazes.If you look back i was interested in his grow not this silly drama. Anyway sorry again madmac ill watch from afar. Mods hide/delete all this if need be. Sorry everyone for derailing.
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I think itās all great to talk about and discuss, I just think itās more appropriate to have these conversations in the already drama filled threads like the haze hybrid thread where it seems to be that all of the Original Haze provenance lineages are talked about and analyzed: Toddās Haze, Mad Macās Haze, Tomās Haze, Seedsman/Golli Haze, Sams Haze, and so on.
For example, if in another thread like the haze hybrid thread I would have felt more comfortable sharing more of the Sam quotes from Icmag but felt they would be out of place and off topic here because this is Macās spot for his work. My apologies for not elaborating those thoughts and feelings of mine in my earlier comment.
As for relative success, I chose that terminology specifically because some members seem to have better success growing Original Haze indoors than others. Also, just because something looks good doesnāt mean itās good. Similarly, just because something looks ragged doesnāt mean itās bad. Pictures are helpful but I think even more helpful are accurate and detailed smoke reports and detailed descriptions of observations from a grow. Then to consider, what someone says is good or bad is relative until one can experience that same thing for themselves to make their own determination. After all Sam says Original Haze crossed to WLD doesnāt improve the line, thatās a relative measure of assessment in my opinion. Until I can experience that and determine for myself, itās all relative. Many blessings and much love
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Another friend is working also with a cross of destroyer and Haze.
Add a very good selected Haze to a really good selected destroyer must produce really scary smoke
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Ok. Ill give you the benifit of the doubt on all of it. You can imagine how dismayed i was to smoke some ātoms bestā clone that couldnt have been the best out of 5 even.
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Take that, @MadMac .
If Tammy wasnāt able to find an elite clone in that piece of 
line that he calls āHazeā, in the decades heās held that trash, what makes you think you couldāve found one?
āIt takes 200 females to find the bestā can be applied to shitty Mex brick weed too.
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@Rocket Please stop
They are enough problems yet
This thread is very cool
Donāt create more shit storm
Put pictures and participate in a good way instead
This is a lemon haze from cheap spanish seeds. Pretty happy with those seeds at 0,70 euros each. Iām high as fuck, no stone. What a beautiful experience !
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This is some pictures of my garden
Some haze hybrids like Nl5 haze, super silver haze, lemon haze
12/12 direct from seed
I hope to can soon grow even more pure haze like yours @MadMac
Thank you for the great thread
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That cross had to be done 
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Meh, it goes about 1 in 20, just like Sam described. There are a handfull of heads - hazy lady, cbf, maha, nobodys nursery, et al- who have actually bothered to follow the damn directions and hit paydirt. Then there a bunch of guys who look at a half a 10 pack and think they know whats up. No biggy to me man, carry on.
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I hope for one of my friends made a Cross of sellected Destroyer and sellected pure Haze
Must be something else! 
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I grow haze. I like to grow haze. I document growing haze. Id love to see some pics of these grows that some of you are basing your fantasy land versions of reality on - crickets.
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I landed at the deads dentist cabin. I give them pause. You guys are still trying to catch up and even grasp it. Not everybody is full of shit you know.
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Guys, a reminder. This is not ICM, this is not how we roll here on OG. If you have some positivity I applaud it, but coming here as instigators isnāt what weāre all about.
Please refrain from this negativity and be constructive! Youāre aware of what happened to your friends in the haze thread last time.
Pz 
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Lol. Hippy cull
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