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WOW …Uncle Tom 
looking amazing!
you know how to squeeze the best out of da haze
while looking @ it … get the feeling to smoke one now
many thx for sharing & good to see ya! 
M.
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Just clean up your house kid. Stop the dirty pollen flying everywhere. And never again think its ok to toss some bogus ass clone around and say its toms best.
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that’s what you get/got wrong…
I’ve never shared any cut… also it was highly illegal in my country by that time…
problem is that those dudes told you absolute wrong information to save there ass… you better had gotten those seeds from me as we where discussing and that for free 
… blame those who gave you the seeds and those who told you it was my fav cut from your gear…
still have the cut but again never shared any cut.
only seeds for free …
and to da pollen …
only haze pollen is allowed… from my selected male… or I’ll do a repro…
thx
M.
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Wow beautiful plants you have going @MadMac 
Thanks for sharing it here with us. Looking forward to hearing how your Destroyer Haze turns out!
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Very cool thread
Thank you for all those pictures and details
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@MadMac . I am also very interested to see what you are able to do with those old Skunk #1 lines that Sam gave you. It is wonderful that you are carrying on Sams work. Im sure that he is very happy knowing that his legacy will continue. Peace brother. 
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Looks good . Im sure being outdoor guy your yield is much better. Def headstash there, looks like a thai almost. Can that even be ran indoors? Im guessing not eitherway looks killer. Makes my haze hybrid grows look like an indica lol
Gotta ask have you considered crossing it to deep chunk for us indoor growers? Or even ptk? Personally id love a hybrid of thh, could never wing that inside unless it was tamed some.
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Kind of defeats the purpose imo.
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Ya i knew that comment was coming thats why i said for indoor. I cant grow thh in a tent can you lol? Defeats what purpose? I get the whole haze purist attitude but come on now, not like a golden rule that hazes cant be hybridized. Anyway not going to derail this great thread with haze drama. Im not trying to argue just pointing out my thoughts is all. Check my diaries i love haze as much as the next guy. Besides it was just a ? to Tom anyway.
My thoughts were that it would keep the haze vibe, but substantially make it easier for people who grow indoors, and dont have outdoor grows or headroom is all im saying.
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That’s like throwing a honda engine in a ferrari, who wants to drive fake ferraris???
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I mean honestly probably lots of people… for a lot of people its way more about how they appear to others than having a ferrari they could maybe track…
edit: also a ferrari body on a honda sounds like a much more reliable car anyways hehe
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Depends who put it together.
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that prestige evaporates RIGHT quick when people realize it’s fake - that would happen pretty quickly - guess you’ve never seen or personally experienced somebody get chewed out for trying to pretend they’ve got the real deal brand name stuff when it’s actually fake knock-off. I have trouble achieving that original haze experience with all the fake blockwork haze perpetuating the market, polluted by NL and blue dream, etc. etc.
maybe honda is a bad example, saturn may be better illustrates my point?
the point is that you miss out on the actual experience found in the long time flowering lines unadultered by the indica presence
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Pm me please if you have a problem with me asking Tom to hybridize his precious haze 
dont do this his over here on his thread please. Gd Tom look what you got me into by a simple question. Username grow your own and choose pure sativas from seed that you like… Problem solved, and youll quickly find out its really really hard to do! Madmac is just a great grower and not the norm. Lets see some “unadultered” haze plants from your indoor tent grows please? Bet you dont have any hence my question to Tom earlier. You make zero since, AGAIN growing pure haze is hard af indoors thats why i asked about a hybrid.
Sorry madmac didnt mean to derail with my question. Gd haze threads go sideways fast.
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I have the THH repro done by Pandora Seedbank and I will cross it to the Destroyer as well when I do the Destroyer seed increase during the spring of 2025 
Destroyer males will paint over a diverse pool of different Destroyer sources and selections made by others, Zacatecas Purple, Colombian Gold 1970s IBL, Panama 1971, as well as Relic SSH, Mango Haze IBL, Mango Z99, Destroyer x SSH (Mind Bender Haze), Holy Princess (Eskobar’s Santa María x C99), San Fune (Holy Princess x Chocolate Cheese) and my own f3 selection of a cross made by Koma Kreations called Blue Tangie Bean (Blueberry Sativa x [Tangie x Jilly Bean]
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I disagree and would argue that hybridizing hazes brings shorter flowering time, better yield, and more diversity to the terps and effects…there is plenty of room for 13 week foxtailing flowers along with 10 week hybrids in the world of haze. For example purple haze brings some grapey hashy notes into the mix and keeps that creative almost disorienting buzz. No offense to some of these pure haze grows but damn they look like 5-10g harvests after potentially months and months of work.
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Nice man that blue tangie bean sounds very interesting
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lolllll you making my point for me
Yes hybridizing increases the diversity, but is it a good thing if you’re looking for specific experience??
To use a different analogy, you’re talking about pedigree horses (haze) and hybridizing with donkeys(indica/hashy hybrids) to create mules(indica-haze hybrid), and then trying to keep them in the same category with the haze moniker?
You mention shorter flowering time as if it’s a benefit? The longer flowering time in the indica free lines is part of the process that allows for the unique effects to be what they are, it does not include stupefying or disorienting qualities, or any couch locky/lethargy. The problem is also there are block work breeders renaming legendary cuts of indica free haze (like purple haze) and releasing some diluted line to ride the nostalgia/inherent branding when it’s really a false derivative and not the real deal.
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