that exactly why colleges and big ag does not promote lunar cycle growing they can not make money off of it all a grower needs to do is get a farmer almanac they or free where i shop for my farming needs.
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Wouldnât an increase in yield be, by definition, making money off of it?
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The gravity related discussions make absolutely no sense to me, so if we could set those aside for a moment. Wouldnât the reflected sunlight of a full moon be infinitely more effective at helping your seedlings than the pull of the water?
And just by pure common sense, could any of these gravity arguments be better explained by the fact a plant germinating under a full moon gets more light than a plant that germinated right before the new moon?
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an increase in yield to me means you got more product to smoke
to me the moon light makes a big difference as for as lunar movement of water it makes it their ready for seeds to take in same as plants growing bring the water too the surface hope this helps as i also like the kiss method peace
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No, but you said itâs not being researched because thereâs no money to be made.If thatâs not what you meant, feel free to clarify, but by definition, an increase in yield due to planting by moon phases would also be âmaking money off of it.â
I donât disagree that there are benefits. I believe the benefits are extra light for your seedlings. Same with harvesting under the full moon. Why would you harvest under a new moon and have to quit early, when you can harvest under a full moon straight through the night.
We tend to overthink everything. Especially traditions.
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What I ment when i said there was no money to be made by it was from a capitalist point of view you cant sell it for x amount of dollars per gallon so why waste research on something thats not going to make some rich company richer.
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Yeah but donât phd candidates choose what they want to research for their thesis? I find it near impossible that not one single PhD thesis was written on a very real and long-standing agricultural belief.
We can test it empirically if weâre willing to sacrifice enough seeds. Itâs just a matter of amassing enough data to support the tidal forces idea
Seriously tho. The light reflected by the moon might be minuscule, but what the hell does a newborn seedling know about light intensity? Itâs like the first time you ever had ice cream, or pizza. It didnât have to be very good to be very good
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From the top link i postedâŚWhat we do know is that moonlight, while generally similar to the sunlight it reflects, shifts a bit towards the infrared (see above spectral graph, from CIRA, at Colorado State University) and also has some gaps that may be linked to the presence of traces of sodium in the lunar âatmosphereâ7. This makes moonlight not just a less intense version of sunlightâit is somewhat qualitatively different, too. Dr. Guerrini has speculated that the rhythmic, additional irradiation from moonlight is an important adjunct to the growth and metabolism of healthy plants: not only have we seen change in growth and leaf movements, but also in patterns of starch storage (highest in the waning phase) and utilization (highest in the days before the full moon). These effects, along with preliminary documentation of immune deficiency and poor wound healing from moonlight-deprived plants, encourage us to think of moonlight as an important part of a plantâs overall ânutritionâ. Interestingly, this ânutritionâ8 seems to be more a modulation of bio-electric activity rather than a source of photosynthetic energy.
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Lol we may all be planting and harvesting according to the moon for other reasons tho. When its my wifes time of the month im looking for anything to do that doeant involve being in thw house.lol i planted seeds this last cycle and will probably be harvesting in three monthes when she is going thru another cycle.lol
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please re send your message i will get back with you in a few days going out of town
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Hello from several years out.
Here is a post I made that touches on this subject.
Rudolf Steinerâs protege, Alan Chadwick and his Grow Biointensive method were proponents of a lunar cycle based planting, transplanting and harvesting technique that has, anecdotally for me at least, showed definitive advantages over random methods.
Steinerâs lectures, compiled in a tome named âAgricultureâ, sparked the biodynamic movement.
One day Iâll have the time to read the whole thing as from the first page it looks like a saucy scandalous good time.
And thatâs not even touching the âPrepsâ!
âBut, lo and behold, Frau Prof. Schleiden rebelled. She preferred the indications of Prof. Fechner to those of her own husband. And so indeed it is. Science may be perfectly correct. Real life, however, often cannot afford to take its cue from the âcorrectnessâ of science!â
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Found a pdf.
http://www.growingempowered.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Rudolph-Steiner-Agriculture-Course.pdf
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I never did really understand that moonlight on plants is fine but everyone worries about light leaks. Why can light leaks hermi your plants but bright moon light wont?
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I thought the same thing in regards to light leaks but if you get into deep esoterica like herbology/alchemy its not the actual light of the moon which effects an operation such as the growth of a plant but its the magnetic properties of that light, because the moon light is of a different nature than that of a grow light or our Sun. Dont know the mainstream science behind it but something like that
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Moon gravity and lunar phases arenât the same thing.
People act like Moon gravity affects plants because of tidal forces but forget that tidal forces are twice daily, irrespective of lunar cycle.
Apogee and Perigee arenât even necessarily related to visibility.
I should make it clear Iâm on your side, these things suggest the Moon cycle has no effect on plants.
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Same guy started Biodynamics. Fancy word for Snake Oil.
What is the fascination with this Steiner guy and burying cowhorns filled with manure and crystals?
If the same guys who recommend burying a cowhorn stuffed with shit to solve my problems as recommend moon cycle planting Iâm gonna say this is nonsense.
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Of course you will, allknowingness.
My posts are just there to piss you off since your limited experience with actual matters qualifies you to shit on anything and everything that doesnât make sense to your puny mind.
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And magnetism is a part of that bio-electric activity.
The Magnetic field alignment of the Moon with the Sun at both the New and Full Moon has a demonstrable effect on a plantâs growth cycles.
The other planets position in relation to the Earth and Sun also have effects on Earth too.
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Iâd happily crap into a cowâs horn, stuff it with quartz, and sell it to you, as Biodynamics recommends. Itâll totally align your plantâs chakras. Itâs laden with bio-magnetic-feedback-holistic-biodynamic energy, triple vegan, and possibly homeopathic.
$300 USD.
How do people fall for this stuff? Sucker/mark born every minute. Please do not waste your time and money on anything related to Biodynamics. It is a fraud. Itâs like Plant Scientology.
Sorry if I canât wrap my puny mind around Biodynamics Preparation 502, which is even weirder.
Deer urinary bladders stuff with yarrow.
Preparation 505: Oak bark stuffed inside an animalâs skull.
I honestly do not understand how a person could believe this.
Donât take my word for it please go look this up.
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I told you already to not get me started on the Preps.
The Preps and how they benefit are things that are totally beyond your comprehension.
Better go back to watching CNN.
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No, I definitely want to hear about your mystic crap horns and deer bladders stuffed with flowers.
I too use a magic mystical substance to make my plants grow better. Itâs called âfertilizerâ.
Stuffing a skull with bark and burying it wonât fix your problems because, and I need you to hear this above all else, magic isnât real.
Stir in some eye of newt, a drop of your blood, and a ratâs tail, and you might be onto something.