They are just in an upside down salad greens container. Use your imagination 
, doh-yah they are in the incubation chamber with the grapefruit seedlings.
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buddy is going to crap his pants when he sees those seedlings fused into one. I never really had it happen in growing medium only in hydro. I wonder if the growing medium keep the plants apart somehow whereas the water doesn’t do anything. Or I wonder if the water facilitates it? hmmmm! Too bad it’s going to be months for the observations to come in… how exciting! Also! it only happens if you grow the plants from the same location. Even if they are separate locations in the same reservoir it doesn’t work.
ok! We’re moving along in the process! I will start scrubbing up a new home for these babies. You can see they are pod-less now, and starting upwards growth.
They will be surviving on plain nothing with paper towel for a few days. 3 more days? Not sure, we’ll see how it unfolds.
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alright! I’ve got…umm some pro-tips for beginners to do with the ph and ph down. Ph up as well…
see this plant?
despite the hue from the LEDs it’s doing really good eh? Here’s a little ph tip. Adding “lots” of ph down/up is really a plant nutrient as well. You ever check the formula on that ph down and see exactly what it is?? Alright What’s the answer then? Add as little ph down as possible to get things in the zone! Same with ph up. Don’t ever mix the two in solution, that’s insanity! What’s the ph of pure water? ph 7. H2O = H+ and OH- a perfect balance of hydrogen and hydroxyl, also doesn’t conduct electricity thus EC = 0. How much ph down did I add to this plant? none. it’s at ph 6.8, and I ask you… does it look like it’s struggling to survive?? The ph has slowly drifted up as the plant absorbed all the EC, and when I add some more, the ph will go down again probably to 6.5, Stability is their friend.
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ohhh my! OK now that plant is at EC 2 and ph 6.2. Sucker is going to be off the hook now. I’ll test all the plants today, over time. Bring any who’s EC is down to “good” that’s like EC 3.0 ph 6.2 for the blooming plants. EC 2.0 for the larger veg plants, all at ph 6.2. Then… I go back to sleep for 2 weeks and wake up when it’s time to do that again.
so , I gotta ask, is my cultivation method in DWC so radical? Ever seen anything like it?
The main guy who hosted the contest/expo said he had never seen anything like it before.
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Sounds like heresy to me. How dare you not adjust Ph all day long.
Séems so much easier that way, put it in and let em run with it, something to try.
Where am I gonna score all that LITFA from.
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yah in my mind I had boiled it down to the minimum required to grow excellent weed. Perhaps that’s the reason my apprentices could never handle it? Soon as I left they were hopping on the ph down like some kind of frog.
Whenever someone said LITFA I always translate that to Leave It The Fuck Alone. I have a feeling that’s not what it means?
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As far as I know you are correct on the acronym translation.
Not adjusting ph, damn near revolutionary, are you even allowed to do that.
hehheh well clearly you can see my ph hits a zone at ph 6.2 then slowly drifts up as the nutrients are used. I thought that was normal agriculture?
I do the same shit with my blueberries except ph 5.5-4.5 pure organic. I’m using serious ph down on those beasts. Elemental sulfur and coffee. Same concept different ph zone.
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You got the acronym correct. I made a parody thread calling LITFA a product. So that is why you often hear people referring to it like a macro nutrient. 
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lol, well I guess I bought myself a lifetime’s supply of LITFA.
The ironical part about the blueberries is I was using acidifying fertilizer that came in a box. The plants were growing great and producing. Then, when I was in the store, there were no more boxes! So I was like no sweat I’ll just go organic. Ugh then I tripped over broscience/oldwives tale that you use woody debris for acidification. My plants almost died followed by reading an actual write-up on managing ph outside instead of wackocrazybonkers info then my plants grew as tall as I am. If anyone questions my methods they can check out the results
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hah hah an even more humorous part is, depending on which ph hydro chart you use, I’m either in the right zone for ph or totally off the charts. I let the plant decide.
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alright! We got buds!
and plants, they would have been as big as me, if I hadn’t tied that one down. Hooray!
I had to share the ph thing well after people knew I was growing mass weed, or else nobody would even take that shit seriously.
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Things are doing good in veg. Those big bud plants are going to require TLC as opposed to LITFA, something crazy is happening with them, where they go into bud before bloom phase. All other plants are doing fine, no crazybudgrowth, so it’s definitely something about that plant in general.
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lol 19 days ago they looked like someone took a crap on them. I’m still irritated by how slow they grow under the LEDs…but! The timing actually works out better for the grow. By the time the small plants are huge, the blooming plants are cut down.
Hey @JoeCrowe, so your technique is very interesting. Do you think if you drop your pH down to around 5.7 for a period of time that the plants would burn up? That is very high EC for DWC and if I run that my plants would be dead. Just spit balling but do you think that the high pH could be stopping the plant being able to absorb too much nutrient so that the hot solution does not burn it? Perhaps the plant then can still get just enough of what it needs when at that high pH because the solution is so strong. Have we been put on the bum steer with low pH for DWC all this time maybe? The EC you are running is getting back up to what most other techniques use which makes more sense in a way.
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Just to give you some idea of how sensitive these plants are in DWC for me, I recently tried to up my EC from 1.2 to 1.3 and the pH starting swinging way down within 24 hours it was down to 4.8 and kept trying to drop. i had to keep adding RO water to pull the pH back up to the 5.7 zone. Eventually i added enough RO that the EC was back down to 1.2 and pH stopped dead and hangs around the 5.7 zone happy again.
Recently i read someone posting that with DWC they never go above 1.1 EC and all their issues went away. I found keeping mine low also did this. Depending, once i have done my nuke and reset of my room to rid the virus it has. If I am feeling done with organic I might set up a second DWC instead. If I do I might trial your technique.
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I put on my log, I notice the plants are happier even in dwc at 6.5 rather than a 5.5. Also noticed the ec as well. Just not smart enough to put together puzzle pieces I was given!
hey…don’t you go proving my lazy method of growing works now… but I would definitely like to see someone else try it. I always feel people’s DWC are on the edge of collapse due to the chemistry involved. All a guy needs, is some nice pure water, chelated nutrients that are slightly acidic start at EC 1 with ph 6.2. Add only a very minimum of ph down if required. I swear, growing in DWC is easier than they make it out to be.
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