And this is where the study gets foggy again based on grow methods, is someone using bottle nutes force feeding their plants or natural and slow organics? Typically not gonna have much salt build ups with organics like u would with nutes and like u mentioned how heavily were they watered? Was there a bunch of run off each time or none?
There’s just so much to consider for something that would seem so simple and black and white but it’s not that easy.
I’m clearly a pro flush kind of guy but I based that off of personal experiences and being networked in with large scale growers hearing their trials and errors through the grapevines. Flushing the plants has been an industry standard for many years and now all of a sudden we have a single study saying it doesn’t benefit even with that study saying ya, we seen less nitrogen, ya we seen the iron and zinc levels change which knowing the science it helps break down the chlorophyll yet end of the day the only facts they care about is the bad, ok, good, great opinions from the people in the focus group… Well that to me is an opinion based study and not facts, the facts are what they analyzed in the lab which does in fact show chemistry changes
Give me 200 25 year old males or females (don’t matter just make the demographics the same) that don’t smoke cigarettes and started smoking weed at the same age and have 50 of each test the 4 controls the same exact day so the weed is the same age at test day and u may have a lil better clearer results but for all we know it could have been ppl of all ages from 21-65, some could be cig smokers than the smoke appeared harsher, they could have been testing all 4 the same day with the same ppl so by the end it seemed harsher. Bottom line eliminate the variables and ur closer to the facts. Just dont see it with that study to made it a solid airtight this is the truth
I think the main focus of the study was to show that yields, THC, terpenes are not increased or decreased and user experience was an extra. The rec industry focuses more on what can increase yields and thc. I do work at a large scale cannabis facility where I’ve done trials after this article came out. Being in Canada, we can’t have testers legally so it’s based on soil analysis, plant tissue analysis and plant visual queues. We still flush but it’s interesting that we don’t notice much difference in plant tissue with or without flush.
I also love going back and forth on all topics haha helps to see other perspective and learn
Which is actually odd to me cuz I never expected better yield, higher THC or better terps from flushing, I do it for an overall cleaner less harsh smoke letting the plant consume the residual mobile nutes. So my main focus of a study like would be for user experience as end of the day we just want a nice smooth smoke that sends us to the moon.
As far as terps go I’ve noticed u get the most out of em if u do your chops couple hours before sun up after a night of rest for em, just my personal findings with experience, usually I’ll wake up early and knock mine down around 3 or 4 am when it’s harvest day
Ya I’ve noticed that too, I’ve also noticed that higher temps tend to lower terpenes too near the end of harvest. Growing multiple crops a year help dial in the trials haha I’ve been lucky enough to witness and control so many crops. Things I’ve seen on scale I have never seen in small grows it’s crazy what appears when you have thousands of plants vs a dozen haha
You bring up great rebuttals and have great conversation, if you wanna add things to my thread on scientific trials or give your two cents please feel free. It’s called the Cannabis Research Lab. Hoping everyone can learn together and be as close as accurate as possible when it comes to mastering their craft
Yup they sure do, pretty much just vaporize away. Just another battle I face cuz my plants are expected to start flower end of July in 120 degree weather In a greenhouse with the greenhouse effect, currently have a swamp cooler on my greenhouse and thinking about putting in a second unit for a fail safe. I did def notice what I harvested closer to Christmas was more flavorful with less yield than what I harvested Halloween, cooler temps but shorter days the plants never really got that chance to swell up and get chunky but was better overall smoke with less yield. That kinda what brought my attention to starting at 13/11 to initiate flower and lower the days by a couple minutes, really keeps those plants on a solid path for the harvest cycle
I’ve spent many years up in Cali working on 300 lb 99 plant gardens so I’ve def got my hands on growing a lot deeper than the average person and very lucky to be able to experience what I have and be a part of growing massive 12-18 ft and 3-5 lb plants, was a hell of a crash course in the cannabis industry
You can do a test jarring when the stems start to crack instead of bend. Take one branch, jar it up with a mini humidity sensor and see if it’s at or near 60%. If yes, continue with the rest. If not, … use the info to know where you’re at.
Question are these little sensors $$$ or they’re readily available…should I grab a few boveda for the jars or not worth it unless it’s kept longer than a couple weeks and I have 2 Grove bags it’s from the sample/variety bundle that a great Duder @Reefer uestion are these little sensors $$$
I would just skip the sensors and the guess work and order up some grove bags. Dry until you can snap the buds with average eyes stems and call it a month while they chill in the truce bags. Or, get a cheap humidity meter for the buds if you want to be more precise
I got the vivosun hygrometer that has one main unit and 4 channels in a fan bundle and have really liked it if you want to read up to 4 sensors from one main unit it’s very nice. I’ve heard of issues with the ones you’re looking at, but they’re probably fine overall. There’s no need fir them in grove bags from all I’ve seen.
It says that the one u sent me is for approximately an eighth and the other one’s considered a 1g sample bag so I’m gonna see if I put an eighth or so of the best buds and put them in the Grove bag and the rest in the jar because it(eighthsize)was never sealed up for curing and I read about it online so I’ll be sealing it up the same day I jar the rest so I’ll be sure that before I buy them I can have the Pepsi challenge and see how things cure in the bag compared to the jar with burping them and I just checked the branches and they all were still good and not dry like previously but they stayed in the position I bent them to and DAMN it’s starting to get sticky icky and smells like skunk and some small sweet aroma and when I say skunk I don’t mean today’s world of skunk I mean that it’s skunk from the Old school 70’s skunk#1 smells like
Sounds good. By the way, I’d suggest the 1/4 lb. Bags for future harvests. Though I’m going to have to order again because I underestimated how many 1 lb. Bags is need. Didn’t think I’d be using two 1 lb. Bags per plant in some cases lol. Had to use 4 x 1/4 lb. a 1 lb. Bag On the white widow. I started with 1/4 lb. Bags, filled two, then was like… uhhhh, this isn’t going to work, filled a 1 lb. Bag, though I might be able to fit the rest in a 1/4 lb., nope! Then I half filled one more quarter. She’s a little less dense than the others so that ended up being close to 700g (without trim!) in two bags that will hold 1 lb. Of denser smaller bud.
I don’t plan on allowing my autos to yield more than a lb. each anymore, but it’s at least fun to know I can do it. One of these days I’m going to go for pulling more than 1 kg. From a single auto. I’m pretty certain I could have done it with three plants this last run had to staked and kept defoliating the way I was. I just got overwhelmed and couldn’t even get to one side of three of the largest plants. For the last weeks of the grow, then had to chop while they were still stacking.
Maybe I’ll do a 4 -6 plant growing in my 4x8 with the biggest yielding autos I’ve come across. Barney’s DSD and Watermelon Skittles will definitely be a part of that, simply astonishing growth from those. Same for the Seedsman Amnesia, if the two I grew are any indication, that’s a sleeper auto for sure.
Here she is still pumping out pistils, leaves, and seeds on day 137.
