that’s the story about how the buds looked like “knots” or whatever thus the name superknot i think right? im gonna need to research more lol ive only just started listening to TK Origins and his supposed contribution.
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yeah i recall the old emerald triangle story a little bit. isn’t that what The White is also supposed to be derived from?
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The White, TK, and OG Kush are all supposed to be sisters found in the same bag of weed, or bags of the same weed.
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Has a different lineage from my understanding.
The white is also known as triangle I think, that’s where the confusion regarding her and Triangle Kush comes.
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I’ve not had anything called superknot/supernaut, but I am from the east central Florida area where we had access to tk regularly, and it was common for people of the surf persuasion to refer to the nicest buds as cryp knots, so knot was part of the vernacular. Just wanted to add that bit of lived experience.
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Do you remember seeing or hearing about the TK for the first time? if you don’t mind me asking?
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Krome’s cut of The White has always been touted as a sister to OG Kush and Triangle Kush. At worst a cross of one of them.
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Ocean grown. And its funny coincidence but Og and Og have nothing to do with other.
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Don’t mind at all. Hard to remember an exact date but it was around 01-02, and I was at a party west of town. Had been smoking all day elsewhere and it was late when I got there. Buddy handed me the bong right as I arrived and said try this. As soon as I had my lungs full I got super high - it cut through everything I had smoked prior that day. Bong was dirty as hell but it had the most incredible flavor. Said it was called Triangle and it was a $60 8th and difficult to procure more than an 8th or two. I remember thinking it was some type of sativa cause of the stacked brachts that looked like foxtails. He’d get it a few times a year but was never able to get more than an ounce at a time even though that was never an issue with other pot. It was always $60/3.5 every time. Until that time the best pot in the area was called Pearl.
We would never say or text the word triangle, because of rumors about local police having a hard on for the crew growing it. The angle or three corners were the aka’s. It was said to be coming from the small beach town we lived at that time and later was SAID to come from Tampa, but was known to actually be coming in from Brevard county which was just south of us. When we caught up recently I asked him what he remembers about triangle, and he said around '10 the same crew was also pushing out incredible sour diesel. He remembers that almost every ounce of triangle he bought had one seed.
Around that 01-02 timeframe I linked up with a surf crew and was buying ounces of weed to split up and sell enough to cover my smoke. They would occasionally bring stuff that looked and smoked like triangle but would never say what it was, and did not charge the premium my buddy would have to pay. The only time this other crew shared a strains name was fruity juice. I remember hearing origins talk about juicy fruit so I’m assuming that his crew and my crew knew each other.
I probably rambled a bit so I’ll apologize for that but holler if you want any more info.
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Then I had old infos / confused something.
So the story of og kush is pretty much written except for what exactly the emerald triangle was?
There are a few spots called emerald triangle in america, with areas in Florida and California called that. Has it been established if it was from the California emerald triangle or the Florida one?
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OG Kush really took off in L.A. When OG Raskal started breeding with it was when people had access to seeds. The OG in OG Raskal doesn’t stand for ocean grown.
The big growers in Florida at the time were Cubans or Puerto Rican usually Latin Kings. From 2000 to around 2014 Florida was buying tons of schwag Mexican weed from TX or locally grown hydro.
Most of the good Florida growers relocated to California and Colorado.
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The story goes they came out of Florida’s emerald triangle.
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There’s a movie called Kush from 2007. Very accurate movie.
Back then all the East Coast rappers were talking about purple. The west coast rappers were talking about OG before anyone.
Subcool was from Florida and always talked about Florida strains. He called OG a Cali strain.
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Hindu Kush was very popular twenty years ago, why would it be called Kush if it wasn’t a Kush?
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It’s those changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes
NOTHING REMAINS QUITE THE SAME
With all of our running and all of our cunning
If we couldn’t laugh, we would all go insane
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Nevil sometimes wrote Northern Lights #2 (Hindu Kush). For him the NL#2 was a kush, I don’t know whether or not he got to that due to having Kush4 from Jim Ortega or if he regarded to NL#2 as being a Kush before that.
I think he once wrote they shared the same pungent smell.
His Kush4 x Northern Lights #2 F3 is listed as Kush x Kush in TheSeedBank Cataloug.
Sensi then renamed either his NL2F3 or the Kush4 x Northern Lights #2 F4 to Hindu Kush, I d guess it’s K4xNL#2F4 because he said the pure NL2F5 wasn’t quite as impressive as the Generation before.
Edit: F Numbers
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Some more NL2 Info.
Well without smelling it, I’m not sure what the term diesel represents in this case. You mention that Northern Lights is behind it and that will include the NL2 male. NL2 as a strain had quite fuelly smells, which to me represents kush (you must understand that this assumption comes from cross referencing kush strains, not hard facts). In any case, the NL2 will account for many types described as diesel. Even the NL5 hybrids would throw a % of fuel like smells, indicating some common ancestry with NL2. I would expect that further inbreeding to 5x2 would throw predominantly NL2 type smells, unless you selected away from this, it would quickly become fixed. Lemon diesel would be a good description of what I call Kush
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OG/Kush is more than likely an S1 of KushxKush
Chem possibly being the Emerald Triangle x (KushxKush). This could explain the strong similarities.
Alec and bubba said the weed OGK was found in smelled exactly like OG/Kush. Origin TK’s description of Emerald Triangle doesn’t match the smell of the bud Alec & Bubba received.
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I don’t think there will ever be a for sure way to know what the emerald triangle plant was that got crossed to Nevils Hindu Kush that was not pure Hindu. From my understanding It came from some older growers at the time who got busted around 89 and nobody is in contact with them at this point from what I’m told.
I don’t remember if they got a plant or found a seed from the older dudes but the lineage was not passed on with the genetics.
If somebody told me it was related to chem I wouldn’t be shocked but I could also see it being a lime afghan thai cross or something like blue orca coming from the pnw, there are so many possibilities for what could have been floating around the late eighties early nineties it’s almost impossible , there were a lot of sativas being mixed with afghans in those days and record keeping was frowned upon lol
There was a lot of Jamaican herb being brought into Florida prior to all of these things occurring maybe it was a Jamaican / Afghan , smell descriptions are deceiving from person to person impressions and descriptions often vary for the same herb.
I used to think Mexican , Thai or Jamaican was for sure in the mix to explain the stretch and floppy structure seems likely but I don’t think we will ever know .
But was it not just a bag seed from some kryptonite Matt got from Alec that was shipped from Washington , perhaps the Seattle area 
so many crossed stories. If it was that then what made the seed , or was a seed from the kryptonite grown and then crossed to the not Hindu Hindu making emerald triangle kryptonite from the pnw….
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