On quality of posts and AI generated content

Continuing the discussion from Bodhi Guide - Seed and Strain Discussion (Part 2):

apropos of nothing I’m sure,

you’ve mentioned many times that you are collecting and indexing bodhi info including scraping breedbay to make a “bodhi bot”. that would include a lot of my posts.

please consider this my official opt out. Please don’t use any of my posts or content for your bot project. If anyone wants to know about something I have grown they can ask me.

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I gave people code & instructions to add their own information and collected the breedbay thread for posterity. There was another member working on a ChatGPT bot. I also helped them fix your issue. Seems like help isn’t really wanted around here.

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I appreciated the browser fix. if this isn’t how you’re using the info you scrape then there should be no offense taken from my request. Thanks.

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But did you ask them before you even started it? Did it ever occur to you that maybe the grow logs from people who have actually, you know, grown these plants maybe didn’t want you (or anybody) to do something like that?

Dude, seriously… You haven’t grown any of the stuff you talk about. We all know that. You’re just here to gather “likes.” You don’t offer up any information that couldn’t be gleaned with a quick Google search, the only grow you’ve posted here is a joke and on and on…

Seriously, what’re you even doing here?

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Are you kidding me? That’s happening. This is late-stage capitalism. It’s a free-for-all.

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I’ve never implied that I’m the “gatekeeper.” Have I grown a bunch of Bodhi stuff and am I in a position to offer up my thoughts about those cultivars? Yeah. But when people just post things that anybody can find with a quick search, with no personal experience, I get irritated.

Not to mention, you’ve posted things that are just flat-out wrong. And done it in a way that makes you seem like some sort of authority. You’ve never grown the stuff you talk about. Just admit it.

I followed your one and only grow here, just to see if you knew anything. You let two plants go like sixty days longer than they needed to. You basically killed the plants. I’m certain you’ve never grown anything you’ve said you have.

So… Honestly, you’re just clogging up this thread with nonsense.

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Ok minitiger may have gone a little far, but I think this is reasonable here:

cocoacoir, the tone of some of your recent posts has been “off” with very authoritative wording, some very general factual information combined with very specific innacuracies, and not citing any kind of personal experience or sources. It reads like ai generated confabulations.

your posts about seed sales can be helpful, or they can cross a line into just a lot of reposted advertising that could be found with a google search, or even just a glance at our own sponsor section for info about glg. it verges on spamming sometimes.

I think you can see why the response to these posts is not resoundingly positive.

I think people woul appreciate your posts more if you self edit, and respond only with genuine personal experience.

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In general, no one who asks a question here stands to benefit from another user posting an ai generated reply. We all have access to ai if we choose to. We come to a community forum to share genuine personal experience.

The issue isn’t whether or not posts contain photos or documentation, the issue is when they contain innacuracies, are irrelevant, or are not based on genuine lived experience.

Think of the difference between an innacurate description on leafly, versus an actual first hand grow report here on overgrow. We all have access to that wrong information, but instead we choose to interract with growers who have genuine experience.

It’s a fine line, and frankly it’s also uncharted territory.

We do have rules against bots and sock puppets, in the future I will be flagging posts that appear ai generated and contain innacuracies.

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That may be true for the Plant Guide. But this here is the Discussion thread. Where we talk about Bodhi weed we like. No proof of gardening skills is necessary here.

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I was hoping to have some of this cultivar in my collection but the individual I was supposed to receive them has not been logged on for over 45+days :frowning:

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Perhaps there should be a “Bodhi chat thread” started for things like talking about seed drops that are live, etc. to keep those posts off of a main thread

I, for one, found many of @CocoaCoir’s posts today to be helpful. Especially this morning when I was trying to figure out if the JBC drop was actually live (it was) since the products weren’t appearing for me when I loaded the bank’s site

A chat thread would allow for a place to talk about things “happening now” that don’t need to be indexed for later. Maybe that way we would get fewer complaints here.

Edit: it’s always easier to tear things down than it is to build them up

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Damn! That’s color. :beers:

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This is literally the SEED and Strain Discussion. I can tell you which topic I thought was “clogging up this thread” and it wasn’t the seed talk.

This kind of pissing contest is why I personally don’t participate here often. I’m sure I am not the only one.

@minitiger For as much as you grow, more than everyone else, you don’t seem to spend enough time getting high on your own supply. I think it would be good for you.

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I got these f2 MM from 313 via DCSE. It’s actually a bit of story. They were supposed to be sent by DCSE in an order I made last year and they didn’t send them. Then I contacted him and they said they would send again. They made it to my family’s house in USA but the original seeds I had purchased had already been sent to me here in Chile. About 3 weeks later my family sent them to me along with clothes and gifts for my kids. However that box was stopped by Chilean customs on a random search and the seeds were removed. I received a notice from SAG (Servicio Agricola y Ganadera) that they had removed seeds but they didn’t fine me. I then contacted DCSE again and asked if there were any left and if I made another purchase could they include a pack. There weren’t any left but Paul/DCSE contacted 313 on my behalf and like 10 days later a pack arrived along with an extra freebie pack of rhubarb fems (Bag of Oranges x (Mother Milk x Plemon). I’d happily send you a clone but I live in Chile. I’m hoping to receive my first f2 bodhi pack from og here soon thanks to @Hemlock. I would love so e more MM f2 beans too if you get a line on any whether here or other…

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This is that thread. There is a second thread, the Bodhi Plant thread for plant photos and grow info.

This thread here was created because a certain person kept complaining that they couldn’t stand people having conversations about Bodhi seed drops etc.
So the orig. one Bodhi thread was split in two.

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Sure, fair point. But when somebody acts like they’ve grown whatever it is they’re talking about, even though they never actually have, wouldn’t you want that person to shut the fuck up?

Oh, okay. So you wanna be the Gatekeeper. That’s pretty funny.

Also, why do you have to “get information together”? It’s all there. Anything you “get together” has already been posted. Anybody who’s interested can find it. Nobody’s relying on you. Cannavore’s actually already done that on his thread on icmag.

Why don’t you just post all of the Bodhi stuff you’ve grown and forget all of the stuff that other growers have posted? Seriously, we’d all love to see your pics.

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This isn’t a pissing contest. This is me calling out somebody who’s obviously full of shit.

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Can we get this on topic ?

No matter who you side with this is not constructive

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Sure, but maybe they’ve smoked dispo Bodhi or a friend’s Bodhi weed. I’ve bought 1/8ths of many Bodhi strains but only personally grown a few (4-5?) most i’ve never documented here.

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You said that about Doug. Maybe you don’t know everything. Maybe you should smoke some weed.

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