Most cannabis flower samples that people give me are unsmokable in my opinion. Dispensary weed in my area is like smoking wet charcoal.
For me cannabis has to smoke smoothly, with a white ash, no crackling and without having to relight it.
Anybody else?
Good topic and nice photo!
Good topic…
Yes, there is strong conflict of interest when selling weed. Probably they still believe in quantity and not quality properly dried product (and it is pretty easy to get 10% more income by selling wet product without anybody objecting).
Personally I don’t get it - they are against themselves. Wet product not just taste bad (I hate that tar literally flows through the filter) but also doesn’t have that fine effect.
Flushing is whole another problem. (I’ve thought that this is merely problem of newbie growers, but what are you saying contradicts this)
In countries where it is legal I think that free market can solve this problem.
The extra yield from not flushing doesn’t justify for a subpar product, never understood that way of thinking. Rec weed in WA (medical is gone) has typically been hosed down with chems, and burns like the OP said, wet charcoal. Gotta go for 14-15 a gram for anything decent, still not great. Grow your own, because you really can only trust your own.
Walter “Heisenberg” White, worried about his product and made it exceptionally good. It reached Europe. Quality, knowledge and good will together are unstoppable; no matter what you do…
too bad Walter White doesn’t exist…
reality is that on illegal markets wet, uncured weed is the norm…
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One of us, has to be worthy enough to rise up and be… LOL
I find that with proper feeding (without over feeding), no leaching is required. My EC rarely exceeds 1.2. In my experience, black ash is due to most moist (un-dry) conditions.
Here’s a random unflushed-un-dried flower of mine:
It did not stay lit, and burnt black.
Here’s a flower off the same plant, still unflushed, but dry and cured:
…and after some burnage:
Just curious,
Why don’t you finish with a flush.
It’s not bad looking, but I believe you can achieve a cleaner burn than that.
I agree with Dumme that overfert ruins any taste. There are people here that have constant tip burn on their plants, going to EC 2.4 in hydro and still complaining in growshop that they want another bottle to boost their buds ;). Some even like that chemical taste, i think they must be already hooked to phosphorus
I believe that Dumme’s aquaponics with its lower concentrations can do really well and work without flushing. And technically it would be probably harder to manage flushing in aquaponics, cause you need some other plants to “draw” nutrients out of solution constantly (instead of the ones being flushed) otherwise you could harm the fish.
Love this topic. As an organic gardener I don’t really do a “flush”. I do however let my micro organisms die off and the soil dry out more at the end though. I’m usually only using water during the entire grow except for the occasional compost tea, so there aren’t any chemicals to flush out. HOWEVER, you can end up having too much nitrogen locked in the plant when you chop if you aren’t careful, and especially if you’ve over fed. The ash is very telling of the growers practices.
Exactly!
Hydro/Organic/Outdoor…Excess Nitrogen is the main reason for charcoal-like burn, if you ask me.
I’m a chronic over fertilizer on my outdoor stuff. It’s organic but usually burns like shit from too much bloodmeal/manure
…I don’t feel so alone now LOL
You are definitely not alone. Unfortunately, it’s a problem that goes beyond the things we mentioned. It takes a lot more than a 2 week water only “flush” to drop that ppm to under 100. ESPECIALLY if the plants have been over fed with “kong dong’s bud fattener” or what ever the hell…plus if you are actually sick and are buying unflushed, improperly finished flowers, then you could actually be causing more problems. Don’t even get me started on concentrates… Sorry for the rant. If you’ve ever hacked up a lung after inhaling some hot ass spiderweb feeling smoke, then you know where I’m coming from.
I’m wondering ur thoughts on flushing now that I’ve seen you mention it and I’m not trying to be rude but are you like the owner of og I see you everywhere
I won’t repost here everything I have already said on this topic, just to repost links to images of my unflushed, but properly cured, weed and it smokes just the same as your flushed, cured weed.
I think it was even the same image you posted that I responded to.
Anyway, you are showing your weed is well cured, IMO the flushing is not so important.
EDIT :
This is my opinion on flushing
EDIT 2:
and here is the post where I posted the image of my unflushed ash
https://overgrow.com/t/pgr-lets-talk-about-it/7007/48?u=microdoser
EDIT 3 :
Same here. This cycle the maximum I went was a TDS of 580 (EC 1.16) and they seemed to want it lower next time. Next time, I think I will see if they prefer closer to 530. The more I learn, the lower my EC gets, and the higher my yield and quality go.
Yours is smooth smoke / white ash 2, days after harvest?
cured=flushed.
Do one or the other and you get smooth clean smoking weed. Do both if you like but there is no reason to.
Your reply when seeing my ash was
But if you don’t flush it, you have to wait till it’s cured to smoke it, no? Mine smokes like a ciggy right after harvest (unless its not flushed all the way), smooth hits/white ash.
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