Great topic, @LandraceWarden have been enjoying all of themā¦ Is there a major difference with Pakistani and Afhgani strains in general and growing outdoors in Canada specifically? Thanks and have a great weekend !
Nice to see some Bolichi genetics here on Overgrow. Very powerful enduring genepool. Excellent work on the part of the Farmers and their selections. Your selections too for that matter. I have seen you have a good eye for quality.
Anyone interested in making unique hybrids or interested in the powerful effects of full spectrum cannabis should explore this genepool. If you are located in a dry region in particular, this is something special. Plants from this region are extremely drought tolerant, with some fields surviving off of rain alone ( there is next to none)and still giving tremendous yields in some cases. If you live in the West and in particular if you intend to make money growing and selling cannabis, or if you depend on your own ability to grow your own headstash as I do, why would you grow something that requires lots of water that may or may not be available when you need it?
Whether you keep these genetics pure or use them as a tool for your own acclimated creation these genetics are pure gold.
I am telling you all this because Iām in a wet region and itās much more difficult for me to cultivate dry area crops. I must limit the size of plants so i can carry them indoors during wet or very humid weather.
So I must live through my OG friends and hope someone will fulfill this Bolochi hole in my cannabis systemš by growing a Balochistan cannabis tree here in the States. Landrace Warden is available on IG to chat with to enquire about the seeds he has acquired during his landrace seed hunts but no sales there, or here for that matter. As always discuss such things via direct message here or via email. He is just learning the rules here at OG. @LandraceWarden a very hearty welcome to OG to you. I would have welcomed you sooner but as you know i needed to make sure it was youš. We are lucky to have you here to teach us about your region and its practices regarding our favorite plant.
If I can figure it out Iām going to get some , Iām bout 20-30 miles south of the 38th parallel in the Missouri Ozarks at about 1500ft ASL my little micro climate is super dry almost arid Iām between cycles right now my funds revolve around harvest so Iām starped right now I would love to get a breeders pack like a hundred or 2 but Iām all in and I will op it and Breed with something you got and send you some f1 or f2 if you want to colab on something @Upstate itās whatever just know Iām game
@drgreensleaves I think you would be better served from the Nuristan, Afghanistan or Tirah Valley, Pakistan genepools, both of which hail from your exact latitude. These areas are much wetter than the Western end of the Hindu Kush or Balochistan, where Quetta is. Your humidity will likely mean youād lose a good portion of your crop growing Balochistan. If you get any kind of rain in October/November you will have a battle on your hands. If youāre prepared for that battle Iād love to see you grow them there. My personal belief is that these plants have a memory of being from a wetter region ( South Caspian Sea Elburz mts North slope) and they might acclimate to your wetter climate rather quickly. This is purely a hunch.
If you are looking to find something original and unique That will perform well for you in your climate Iād recommend the others.
Itās heartbreaking watching beautiful plants mold and turned to mush during the last couple weeks, right as they start to look kick ass. 1st a couple spots in the top colas deep inside where you donāt see them, and then if you are unlucky spores will go flying everywhere onto everything and every morning when your plants are wet from dew the spores will germinate. If you can work with this and continue to select the more resistant plants you would have something truly unique in your region. I have done something similar with my uncles old Afghan. I started seeing results after 7 or 8 generations maybe.
If you have your heart set on the other though there is always indoor. One of these days Iām definitely going grow a bunch of these Balochistan indoors myself during winter when humidity is low.
Iāll be starting a Tirah Valley Thread shortly @drgreensleaves. 100% germination. Just planted last night. Plants will be up above groung in a couple days.
Ooh ooh, nice Iām still waiting on my pack from Angus itās been over 3mos smh lol this is the first time Iāve had trouble getting seeds from overseas but Iāve heard good things about Angus I have not received a pink slip so it should be good I just donāt know what to do? Any suggestions? @Upstate and tirah valley is one I been eyeing for a while oh and I just popped kosher kitty itās 1990s cat piss x kosher Kush I heard you like your cat piss so I figured Iād let you know itās my first time growing it so we will see I was thinking about letting the fort Bragg drop pollen but I havenāt made my mind up yet
Are you going to make seed? And are you doing OP? And if you do slight selecting of femaleās but use at least 3 males ? And do you think thatās how they select populations in the field? @Upstate oh and thanks bro for thinking bout me oh knowing you itās probably a co-op lol I had a wakeNbake this morning lol
I always OP my first generation landraces even if itās only in a limited fashion. This Tirah Run is for head stash this time as I wouldnāt want to cut in on the business of the man running this thread. To the contrary Iād like to help him get more business rather than less and I figured that showing my fellow OG ers A closer look at what these fantastic genetics look like grown in the States would go far towards meeting that goal. Iāll be pheno hunting for some keepers to work towards an IBL. Once IBL status is closer you can count on me spreading some seeds of this one around.
Spreading genetics around is a great way to aid in Landrace preservation, But not nearly so good as directly supporting the farmers that maintain them.
I think @LandraceWarden would be better able to answer that question for you but generally speaking I think most males are eliminated from most fields with either colorful or very full flowered individuals left in place for limited seed.
Any idea where to find the nineties cat piss pure?
Hi, thank you upstate for the kind remarks. Also, your concern of supporting me and you did it I am very thankful to you.
Regarding the Genetics, now itās in your owner ship, I would love to watch you do wonders, create your own OP or whatever you desire.
Also what you mentioned about the pollination in fields and how it is don, I agree you got it right.
Also, I would love to see your more grow updates regarding Hoper valley selection in the upcoming next year season.
You got it. Very much looking forward to growing those. Special genepool for sure. As you know, it was a toss up between Tirah Valley and Hoper Valley for this next indoor grow.
Hereās a question for you @LandraceWarden.
What would you say is the major difference between Farming / Breeding practices in Pakistan as opposed to Afghanistan?
Also, I understand there are at least two major growing regions in Pakistan. One in Balochistan and another in Tirah valley. Any others?
Rajisthani landrace might be more on the wild side in Indian region, and we have observed a more domesticated population in the Sindh Pakistani side but a little far from the actual desert.
But, @Upstate is talking about the commercial hubs of Cannabis in Pak & the Sindh region is not one.
There are differences, the main thing is Balochi influence on the Cannabis cultivation which has made its way to grow seedless flowers for the rising demand in the developed side of Pakistan. So, the Balochi farmers have made a very long flowering variety which can flower later until December which mitigates the majority of the pollination process, but a few seeds in the early matured flowering sites of the main prolonged flowering variants.
Also, many from Central Asia enjoy the Tirah Valleyās range of Hash as itās the most preferred due to its texture of resin which is a bit soft and best to use in Chillums.
Many of the changes can be observed due to the Geographical difference between two regions as well as the North most part Hash cultivation is influenced by the southern Afghan Hash extracting methods sifting. Also, we can only have this Goat skin hash only in the Khyber Agency only not anywhere else