SAN checking in @ OG

Meridian Haze.
Pollinated by Meridian Haze. F2 in the make, what a lovely plant. Thx San!
p.s: sorry for the bad pics :wink:
p.s 2: Look at those trichs so early! Mind those are standing outside in the Nothern climate. It’s a 80’s strain! :heart_eyes:

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Beautiful work bro

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The old picture sensi use to sell the nl5 x haze C is actualy the exact a5 mother plant nevil used to make the 97 nevils haze.
That a5 clone they use that goes around now (Karmas)can lean in looks a bit more towards the nl#5 though the effect is about 50/50 . There supposed to have another clone they keep private called a5 #3 which is a bit more haze leaning.
They are still quite far off nevils actual breeding clone. Which ive pictured along with another clone just for refrance so you can compare the current clone
.download (4) nevils a5(2a) 97 nevils haze mother

20220811_195356different clone (5a leaning from old nh)

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what i recieved from sam were “nevils originals” and that was about six years ago.
i don’t know more than that. the a5 stands at least 16 weeks = legit enough for me.

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BUT…
i am about to drop the a5 and only keep focusing on the c5.
others (= much more capable people than me) are aleready
working with her and i prefer the effects of c5, over the other.

people like doc_d and karma + a few commercial seedmakers
are doing a lot of very nice thing with the a5. so, i won’t bother :wink:
next up is a new meridian haze (= c5bx3) and then i’ll move on,
because i’m a not a hazehead anyways.

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i totally humped up to post the CUB-smoke report.
sorry for that ! … here it is :slight_smile: all praise goes to KV.
he created the line & kindly shared the clone over.

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"Chopped Up Biker" - Pheno #4
(Ghostrider OG x Chocolate Fudge)
aka. “CUB4”

harvested at 54 days:
i took this one down very early to have a chance to experience
the full range of the pheno. live plants have a strong “hazey” smell
in the beginning that translates more and more into a strong fuely
glue-mix with a bit of the haziness in the back, very strong smell.

the dry buds reek like chocolate diesel (satty-side) and glue/og mixed.
quite the strong smell. the woody, dry choco powder dominates the in-
hale/exhale over a noticable chem/og-backtaste, with some kushy pine
that lingers for a while. the air smells a bit like pine/haze/glue, very nice.
me body doesn’t know this pheno yet, so the foist effects will be genuine.

the effect in this stage is almost racy, euphoric like the choco diesel-satty
phenos, but with a strong bodacious element that without a doubt comes
from the kush/og and gorrilla glue mixing up. my ears ring after a short bit
of smoking and focusing is very easy … but still, the limbs are quite heavy
and “me want food” !! (and after strong babble-moments i go into staring-
mode, if smoking a whole jay in one go, lol.)

harvested at 60 days:
dry buds smell more “forresty”, the pine is upped a bit and there is a slight
toffey-like after taste in the back of the mouth. otherwise: same terps as the
earlier harvested one. at this point she has more body-effects and the head
turned a bit more cloudy, with a soft pressure on the temples … my ears still
ring, but the body feels heavier. this stuff is potent for sure. heavy feet and
eyelids.

this spicy and sweet-earthy piney smoke i know well. the choco diesel-taste
and effect mixes with the white’s kushy equivalents, plus some subtle gg#4/
og kush thrown in to round things up. i like all the genetics involved and enjoy
the (re)mix of all those tastes/smells.

64 days:
ha, i feel like the later the plants stand, the more the glue starts to come out in
the smoke. the hazyness stays, but starts to play more in the background and the
piney/kushy tastes get richer and make them known a bit stronger. this stage shows
potential for “comfy-weed” for watching movies or playing video-games. it keeps
you focused and lit, while it looks to others, as if you were just staring, lol.

69 Days:
the bud at this stage is super-rich, thick smoke and the chemmy glue-terps come
out strongest here … the effect turned almost completely bodacious, but a little
flame stays lit on top of me head. this is a chocolate fudge-dominant pheno, that
has a lot of the CF’s taste and smell going (favoring the choco diesel-side of that
parent in this regard), while its obvious that the biker brought in a very distinctive
og-element to the bud that mixes very well to the chemmy glue-element. this cross
completes both parental sides, imo. now the white’s classic kush-profile fell into a
‘hazey’ -fuely chocolate diesel-bed,and got wrapped in biker kush’s modern og kush-
blanket … what’s not to like? :slight_smile:

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i apologize for the flash in the pictures, but i really don’t know how to handle a cam …
i just point and snap in automatic-mode, so whatever comes from that is what i show.

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Amazing report this surely is a winner

:+1::+1::+1::+1:

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ow, indeed it is, bro …
(but please don’t call her shirley :joy:)

*dad-joke alarm *

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Thanks for showing those. The Meridian Haze is at the top of the list for my next summer’s grow. This year I’m growing beginner/practice Hazes and next year will be the real deal.

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Blue Ribbon smoke report! Nice work.

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You definitely know how to write a smoke report . Makes a person want to smoke it all up.

Sounds so good.

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Sounds really yummy @santero, can’t wait to see what you come out with next

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great smoke report, i like that you tried the different flowering times! may favorite would be the last one and the one before i guess lol

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ha, mine too … the 63 was my fav, i will let her go 65d next time.
i do that with all my keepers at some point to find out my personal
“sweet spot” to chop.

the sour diesel riri cut (for example):
i know some take it to 9 weeks only and others love to let her go to
up to 12 weeks. the effects and taste as well as “texture” of the high
change drastically.

of course, everyone has different taste, so the results can vary a lot.
i wonder why people don’t experiment with their keepers like that …
at least i haven’t read about it much on the boards since i’m online.

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I’m not so good at following time-frames. I note when I flip to flower, and when actual flowering begins. For finishing I look at trichomes under a loop or microscope. I’ve found that day count, although good for giving out info, changes in my room/environment from grow to grow… But the trichs don’t lie :innocent:
Brilliant smoke-report, San. KV is stoked I’m sure. I hope he can get those Chopped Up Biker beans out to more ppl

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i use a loupe too, but i love trying out more than only one method on the
same plant in different grows. checking for trichs is indeed very reliable,
but i like the effect-range that every single plants has :wink: i enjoy trying out
different harvest-windows/stages to see which one brings in most flavor,
best high ect ect … basically i’m just playing, haha.

in some cases the trichs already said “chop me”, but the plant still smoked
better (to me) after she stood another few days, and vice versa … the loupe
shows me the “basic correct choptime” and the stages-thingie shows me …
what a (cannabis-)nerd i am. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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EDIT.
ooh btw, bro …
i got 7 of the ten 1996 california orange bud started.
wish me luck repro’ing these old puppies, my friend.

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oooh different chop times is definitely something I do with my keepers!

I usually pick my Sunshine Daydream F2 girl around 57-63 days for daytime pain meds, and shes more sour-butter/rubbery up front then too. If I’m out of nighttime herb though, then I’ll sometimes take her out to 77-83 days and she’ll fill that niche perfectly, with a lot more of the baked blueberry muffin smell coming through too. You’d think it was a different plant…

Best of luck on those California Oranges! 7/10 is a great start :muscle:

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Me neither, that’s why some more kudos :ok_hand:

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Setting some breeder standards right there! Very nice to see where you can take a plant and where the sweet spot is, that’s deep! I always like to read when you can start harvesting and how long you can take her. The sweet spot will always be very personal, I guess.

What about the cure? Did you keep her on a shelf before trying it or when did you start smoking the bud? Asking from a practical viewpoint, I kinda just started noticing all that because I just recently started to (try and) keep cuts.

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That’s so awesome on the Cali Orange Bud! Very excited to hear about what those do. Way to go, San!

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That should be a tasty treat . Good luck with the grow.

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