I donno man, but that doesn’t mean the site was silencing you…
Just had an order land in Canada from radogear.com. very satisfied.
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But are they really trustworthy? I mean if they are selling seeds for a strain that is Clone Only, how can you trust that they are real seeds from the real strain? You really cant. I mean you can trust you will get a seed that WILL give you some type of cannabis, but that does not mean it will be the cannabis you think it is.
I do agree, unless you have crosses you want to do, it doesnt really matter, if it grows, flowers, is fairly stable, and gets you high, that is plenty right up till you want to do your own crosses, and that is where it stops being good enough.
For example, I prefer autos, If i get on one of these white lable seed company sites, and order an auto of Green crack and an Auto of Crystal M.E.T.H, for the purpose of reversing and crossing the two, How can I be sure that the Auto I bought is a true cross of the parent strain and Ruderalis? Really cant.
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I’ve found decent plants from crop king in the past but that doesn’t mean it was as advertised. End of the day if you’re happy with the results that’s all that really matters but don’t breed with white labels and pass them off as what was sold because progeny is important. The problem lies with say taking a cultivar from crop king, say green crack, then you or someone else uses that green crack for some breeding but that green crack was an s3 and has nothing to do with the original genetics other than attaching a name, yes related but totally different plant. Adding filial generations can fix this to let people know how far down the line the genetics are. So say you breed that Green crack S3 and cross it with some other feminized crop king cultivar by reversing it. Which was also of unknown filial generation. It’s not the same as breeding the F1 gens as most of the hybrid vigour will be gone and shit can get bottlenecked and wierd. So for a new grower these plants may be fine but for people looking to make beans etc, progeny is hella important or we all start pushing lies. Say Then you make that cross and call it green crack x whatever but it’s not actually green crack that was used, it was a reproduction without reproduction being stated, now unintentionally the person that made those beans thinks they have something that they don’t actually have. Yes you might find something nice but it’s NOT what was advertised. So even if it’s not white label, these companies don’t use proper nomenclature and is done purposely to keep things as vague as possible. Again, yiu may find something nice but an S1 is NOT and should never be called the same name as the parent without saying it’s an S1.Breeding S1 of chem91 with something is not the same as breeding the original cut and will yield different results. Will people find keepers? Sure but they aren’t the original genetics and that should always be stated by every seed selling scammer. A simple filial generation and tip of the hat to where they original comes from would go along way to keep things clear. Like CSI does or any respectable breeder does. Like I just grew Jager S1 from CSI, it’s stated to be an S1 and not the original and he also gives the history of the clone and where it comes from originally. Companies that don’t take the time to do this, white label or not are a problem in this industry and supporting them only furthers the issue with muddying up the history of genetics.
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If you send 3 posts in a row to the same person the site suggests bringing more people into the conversation. It isn’t trying to silence you, it’s trying to get you to open up to more members.
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Preaching to the choir here… I just wasn’t willing to argue anymore. I think it’s sophistry - trustworthy is trustworthy, and if you have to parse what precisely they’re trustworthy for but what they’re probably lying for then they’re just not trustworthy - but if someone wants to post dozens of times to defend the fact that white label seed banks do, in fact, send out some kind of seeds and that some of them might be consistent, and that strain names aren’t copyrighted, etc etc, it’s not worth my time to keep going. 
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I’ve run Blueberry Cupcake from HSC a couple of times now. The terps were wonderful and the flowers crystalin and sticky. 0-complaints.
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yesterday, it greyed out my post and kept me from making more posts until i opened another instance of the site.
Lol my dude that’s not the site silencing you, if they were you wouldn’t be posting about it…
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This site doesn’t allow anyone to post more than 3 times in a row, or to the same person in a row.
It’s nothing against anyone personally, just the way the software works.
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As they’ve been saying, that’s just how the site works. It was politely reminding you that there are other people in the thread besides me, since we’d monopolized it for a few posts. 
I got the same reminder. I hit escape to close it out and kept posting.
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the credence people give to the genetics, even in the most favorable situations, is fairly strange. there are countless forum threads spanning across decades that only dispute the origin of strains. does anyone actually know which strain they have? People can’t even agree as to what reputable breeders have such as bhodi or csi. i’d argue hardly anyone really knows. have you seen the matt riot podcast…he will tell you all sorts of new interpretations of strains…because people hide what they breed. on top of this we’re just trusting weed people, historically known for all sorts of shenanigans, to be honest and forthcoming.
remember those crappy or short bags you might have got? “you got any widow?” “ya, dude i got some widow.” “why does it look different from last time?”
those were from weed people. why would any of the breeders be different?
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I’m trying to understand what you’re actually saying here and it’s not easy. Your position seems to be that all cannabis people are inherently dishonest so all breeders should be considered equally untrustworthy?
And then because everyone is so untrustworthy we should support companies who offer the least transparency in their breeding process?
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cannabis is an inherently dishonest business, and it is a necessity. the lack of transparency is also perpetuated by it’s origins in the black market and the fact there are no legal protections for IP in the biz. There is a thread on Panama Red…that’s a good start. Or, the guys trying to find Deathstar, Sour D, Bubba Kush, etc. Even the clone market is sus. People can’t even agree who has northern lights or even how to spell it. lol. everyone thinks they have the real thing. they don’t know. no one does.
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It’s that belief right there that continues to perpetuate the dishonesty. Maybe lend your skills to something you believe is real and honest and bring that into the cannabis community. That would do way more than saying everyone is a liar so just expect it.
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it’s not that everyone is a liar. it’s just the way the business works.
Is Burger King a liar since the burgers they advertise are not like what you get when you order one? no, it’s marketing. Most marketing is a sham.
Have you seen Irie genetics pic of Tangie Ripper? It’s a joke. That strain doesn’t look anything like that. That dude has a great rep too. Again, marketing is part of the business and that done with name drops, true or false.
It’s very important to me to have the most accurate information about lineage. As someone who facilitates the mating of certain genetic material. I want to know as much of the background as I can before working with the line. With that being said the only other clues I have to what’s in there is to grow it out and see what happens.
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that is the way. if seed pack x produces the fire. that strain from that breeder is fire. that is all you can know.
By this logic you’re dishonest and we shouldn’t trust anything you are saying…
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i don’t sell seeds or weed. i don’t market, and I am not in the weed business. I post my grows. i don’t hide shit.