You don’t have to stress about those things, you can flip whenever you like. That’s the best thing about photos, you are in control, not the plant.
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Right, I get that, My concern is more that it HAS the genes im told it has, than getting a certian phenotype. If I know it HAS the genes, that is good enough for me
But if those genes aren’t expressed it’s moot.
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Valid point, Maybe i am just overthinking it lol But im more concerned about OUTRIGHT fakes, that dont have ANY of the genes they are suppose to. I can always Pheno hunt for a gene expression I like, but if Im hunting for an expression the comes from Columbian Gold and there are ZERO Columbian gold genes in the plant, its not gonna go well
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You are. And imo you think autos are an easy button, and they aren’t. You say you don’t want to worry about if the plant is healthy enough to flip, an auto will flip if it’s healthy or not and if it’s not you have no way to fix it so you get the yields you’d expect. With a photo of it’s not healthy you can fix it, and flower a healthy plant with will give you the crop you were hoping for.
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@Ace71975 If you want autos just ask around OG what’s the best for your situation. Don’t get caught up in names at first just trust the advice. Then ask how to grow them right so you don’t stunt them in the beginning and you will be very successful. 
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My first Auto, its a blimburn seed, so no idea what it really is, but they say its Mexican redhair sativa, Not sure if its stunted or not, but its looks like its growing well to me. But I am new and could be totally wrong on that lol
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The plant is healthy and you did a beautiful job training it.
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Well, Mother is clearly one of those dastardly cannabis people and wants to hide her genetics 
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Great job! It looks very healthy and happy… Nice choice of container it’s big enough for the roots to stretch. Now you just need a few more!
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HSO humboldt seed organization should be avoided. hso is a subsidiary of one of the large spanish companies with very poor business ethics, and even worse breeding practices.
They call themselves humboldt seed organization, which is a name they stole from an old defunct prop 215 patients group. They are not based in california, they have never had any presence in cali or humboldt. They do not have access to genuine humboldt or bay area genetics. They capitalize on the name recognition of well known bay area strains and clone onlys. No way to know what you are actually getting, at best it’s an unknown hybrid of a real clone that no longer ressembles its namesake, at worst, it’s something completely unrelated that they slap an appealing name on.
HSC is based in california, but they label their strains with the same names as clone onlys in a way that is misleading. Their OG lines do not resemble a real og at all, although they may be some kind of hybrid with actual OG in the genetics at some stage in the breeding process. Some people really like their work and it may be decent, but I don’t dig the way they use well known names for seed lines with totally different growth traits than the namesake.
They seem to be well reviewed. but I can’t get over the fact that their website had “OG kush” and “OG kush autos” and used the same description and photos for both strains. None of it looks like OG, no way to know which one is actually pictured, and an auto is not interchangeable with a photoperiod strain. they will grow much differently.
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I grew two HSO strains about ten years ago and it was horrible experiences all around.
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Thanks man, I have really been babying it.
I did a metric fuck ton of research from the day i found out the Legal vote passed in Ohio for Rec in nov until dec when I planted my first seed. Reading fourms, Watching countless hours of youtube, etc. I have been growing food plants for 30+ years both indoors and outside, so I would like to think I at least have a decent grasp on how to grow plants lol. But new plant=new learning curve. So I like to be sure I am doin it right lol
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I think you would learn much more growing photoperiod plants than you will with autos.
Your plant looks very healthy, but it’s growing low and stunted and the structure is all over the place like some weird strawberry plant. autos always seem to do that in my experience.
Sorry to say, but it’s definitely not a mexican sativa. not at all.
Here’s my advice.
If you just want to learn about the plant, grow a traditional photoperiod strain, don’t top, don’t fim, don’t do anything but watch the plant grow out in its natural form.
using techniques like that is just adding more variables to an unfamiliar process- it’s going to make it much more difficult to decipher what is going on with your plants.
The plants don’t need that kind of human intervention to grow properly. That will really shorten your learning curve.
once you understand the life cycle and get a few grows under your belt, then you should start to experiment.
Don’t overthink it about flipping the lights. Wait until the plants start to develop branching. The top, and the tips of the branches are your bud sites. You can flip the lights when branching starts to develop and flower your plants small. Or you can let it veg longer, and once you have enough bud sites, flip the lights.
This will let you see how a pure cannabis plant grows with its natural structure.
You could really learn a lot by growing a photoperiod plant outdoors this spring. Then you will see the true natural life cycle of the plant grown seasonally with real sunlight. You’ll see how big it gets before fall, when it starts to preflower, and what a natural seasonal flowering cycle looks like. This will really inform your indoor growing.
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A lot of great explaining in this discussion, a very good read!
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Honestly, Its more the Time for photos that is my biggest issue, I do like all the other things I stated about Autos, but the biggest sell point, is I am growing this as a Pain Med, I dont want to be waiting around 5 or 6 months to grow 1 photo when I can grow 2 autos start to harvest in the same time frame. My plant is 32 days old and is already flowering, it broke ground dec 16th. From what i have read, Photos are what 2 or 3 months in veg alone and then another 9 to 12 weeks in flower? I mean I know i can flip them at any point but those are just the rough numbers I have saw. I am only growing for me, and I will only be consuming at night and just enough to dull my pain and help me sleep better, so I dont need Huge yields per plant.
If I was gonna do photos, I would very likely do something along the lines of SOG, and start the plants on 12/12 from day one just because I dont wanna be waiting 5 or 6 months to harvest 1 plant. I also have ADHD so patience isnt exactly my strong suit lol.
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Do one outside when it`s warm, for the experience.
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I can flower almost any indica dominate or early flowering sativa in the same time as an auto. It makes no difference to me. I think that’s the point people are trying to make about auto blooming
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You are misunderstanding what you can and can’t do with a photo. I’m not sure where you got this info. Now outside autos do have an advantage to squeezing out more crops, but indoors you control the light.
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