I only use a browser translator when I visit russian pages, in OG I just check the Urban Dictionary …
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I am just a wheel of the system, Gaz and Shadey would also have to make those alternative arrangements? I said before we must wait to see what Sebring thinks about this, we must wait and stop this until we have that data.
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You need to contact sebring.
Gaz and Shadey would also have to make those alternative arrangements?
that is correct.
Of course. We’ve got a couple other people who mentioned a willingness to help, too, and that’s just out of the people who happened to see these posts.
Anything we need put in order we can get in order on the spot. I think we’re planning too far in advance, we should just be focusing on one batch at a time.
This current batch seems to be in order. Is there a matter still up in the air? Does anyone have a question that’s still unanswered?
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And would you agree with me that it would have to be the same arrangement for all of us?
This is a co-op. That is up to all of the individual international distributors. If you all come to a consensus, you can all use the same arrangement.
Equally, each international distributor is free to handle this as they see fit. It would be fine for them to use different methods than you choose to use.
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yup…if George wants to use Sebring and they are both okay with that not an issue.
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Each international distributor should receive the packages from the same person, if Sebring is not available we would need another one …
This is one of the few times we get to have our cake, and eat it too.
The default plan for the coop can be; The ‘breeder’ sends the seeds to their local distributor, who splits and sends it out further.
If the ‘breeder’ also wants to send out seeds to each of the other distributors directly, and the distributors want to accept the seeds, they can contact the other distributors, too.
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You can work with sebring if he is willing to. As a distributor, that is your prerogative.
Each international distributor is free to proceed as they see fit, with whatever methods they choose.
If the other distributors wish to use different methods than you do, they are free to do so.
So each breeder should send the packages to different “alternatives” chosen by each international distributor?, that doesn’t make sense. Here’s something to begin with:
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Well it’s not really your decision to decide how ALL international shipping will be handled. If the other international distributors decide they are fine receiving straight from breeders that is their choice. Just like it’s your choice not to receive. Just because you want a central figure for all international shipping doesn’t mean that is how it has to be.
Also by posting this meme 
, it’s coming off as your trying to hold the entire EU hostage to your demands. So please remove the smugness as I’m sure it would be possible to find another person in the EU willing to work with people and not demand their way only.
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That meme just means I am in the sunny Spain, I detect enough hostility to step back and confirm I am out, you smart guys think you can do it better?, just do it, less problems for me, I will mute this thread … 
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There are alot of positives and negatives to all sides of this discussion and I think one good start would be to have the people doing the runs be clear in the beginning on how they plan to handle the distribution , if members don’t like what the breeder is comfortable doing they don’t have to sighn up. For example if one person wants to send to distributors vs handle all mail out them selves they can make that clear and go from there. We all have the freedom to handle each run on a case by case basis and decide if we want to participate or not . Hopefully everything works out and no beans were lost but if so will have to just keep pushing on threw the fog.
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These are really great ideas. Incorporating redundancies into the co-op infrastructure is a great way to ensure nothing is lost if there are any problems along the way.
If I can successfully complete my maple leaf indica preservation I will definitely keep all of this in mind for distribution.
I would encourage other people to check out this post, and think we should try to use these ideas in as many projects as possible.
I think we have arrived at a good working arrangement for U.S. distribution.
Sebring has offered to act as the official U.S. distributor, and breeders have the option of making arrangements with other volunteer U.S. members to act as a second distributor for additional fail-safe redundancy.
Anything else we can build as the process evolves organically.
Decisions regarding international distribution will be made by the international distributors, as they see fit, whether by group consensus, or by working independently.
The foundation is strong, and we will continue to share seeds with growers and patients, and preserve the biodiversity of a plant which we value and respect.
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At the end of this outdoor season, I may have enough real seed co lebanese landrace seeds for a co-op distribution. would this be a fitting project for the co-op?
Real seed co is selling in house reproductions of their stock which was gathered in lebanon
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My original stock was gathered in lebanon by real seed co, and reproduced outdoor in the US for 2 generations. This makes it roughly analogous, in that they are both reproductions of Real Seed Co. stock gathered in the same year.
Does the outdoor breeding I have done constitute enough of a difference? or is it too similar to the available stock to qualify for preservation co-op release?
- Yes- lebanese is a building block strain, vital to cannabis diversity, it is a good candidate for co-op preservation
- No- too similar. this would be stepping on Real Seed Co’s toes.
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edit- I added a poll. I could use some help from the group to make this call.
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I don’t want to get too involved, but I just wanted to say you guys are doing a great job hashing it out. It’s hard to get organized over the internet! 
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Well guys I could if there’s a way that to make it easier for everyone and sebring l, to handle the whole eu and uk distribution.
1 because I hate all the negative vibes commin thru when the blood starts to boil and I do love overgrow and feel this is the only way for us growers outside u.s.a to have a chance of even receiving good 
without having to pay 200$ for 12 seeds.
- It would be much easier for the sebring or the international guy. To send all to one person instead of 2
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I would like some clarification on who these international distributors are.
Are you just calling internal distributors in other countries international distributors, or are we creating them soon, as the only person who was shipping seeds to other countries was MOTR.
I am not an international distributor, and I don’t want to be either.
Are you proposing replacing the central hub for all seeds (MOTR), with having a central hub for breeders in every country to disperse seeds from, internationally and to the internal home country distributors if the internal distributor does not want to deal with shipping internationally?
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So… If someone in the EU did a seed-run, they would send all the seeds to MOTR, or whoever the central hub is, just so she can send it back to the EU distributor? If there’s a run in Canada it goes to the US before going back to Canada?
Am I only one that thinks that’s crazy? 
That’s like USPS logistics right there.
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