Gelato had more than 50 phenos I believe, it surprisingly has at least a few phenos that are very popular, which is partly due to marketing.
I agree it is unlikely to find a better pheno in a seed of a 12 pack, depends on the breeding, but it is very possible and more likely using science pheno hunting and multiple runs/tests.
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I have to say just cause something is a possible herm risk doesnāt mean itās not worth working with, in my very humble opinion. I wouldnāt work with Cookies for multiple reasons, the herm factor is only a part of it. But other really popular heirloom varieties have come from bag seed that Iād definitely consider worthy of working with. Chem Dog and GG4 just to name a couple. For me besides the herm factor, Cookies has a kind of emotionally numbing stone, which is not what Iām looking for and somehow seems to aggravate my depression. A lot of Cookies progeny carries that effect for me so I generally just donāt go for em, but I have tried a couple that were pretty good that didnāt carry that effect. All that being said, if I was releasing work that Iād done with something that was a known herm risk I would make it well known to consumers
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Bro your a hater, americans bred sensi seeds whole catalog with different names (a thief stealing from a thief), not to mention greenhouse too. The Spanish seedbanks a very stable and affordable in my country. I grew from american seedbanks and thereās no uniformity, generic btw.
If you take a pack crossed from two polyhybrid parents, just inbreed them using open pollination one time. Theyāre so heterozygous youāll have a huge spectrum of things to clone hunt from. Thatās what Iād do.
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So I have a pack of do si dos regular, I was thinking of finding the best male, cross it with a female do si dos and various other strains, sounds good? Should I pick multiple males?
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Depends on what youāre trying to do. Breeding it to itself is probably going to give you a lot of variation as it is. You just need to find a good mother. Why not use a whole pack and cross all good males to all good females? Your first inbred generation will be like growing half a dozen different strains. Itās just a matter of growing enough plants to find something āeliteā at that point.
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In growing Barneys wedding cake now. It hermed on me. Probably environmental but I never did see bananas on the other 2 I was growing.
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Well its harvested now but yeah I just grew it.
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Ok thanks, very insightful.
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Cookies isnāt anything like OG. Definitely gets itās boring traits from some other genepool. It is unstable and will make intersexual traits the norm. Iād avoid anything improperly bred. People seem to love the GG4, but same story with her. I never thought either were all that great smokewise either. Kinda boring highs. GG4 is also kinda a belligerent high. I prefer to get along with the people Iām smoking with. I avoid that terpine profile right away now and donāt fall for the looks anymore.
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I would suggest countless hours of research on breeding and genetics, and not research from forums if it was posted after say 2010.
Do you want to āBreedā or do you want to make seeds? There is a big difference there.
Anyone can throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks. Few can go into a breeding project well educated, with a goal in mind and a solid plan to get there.
There is nothing wrong with making your own seeds. That however is not breeding.
Good luck with your endeavor.
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Well your suggestion itās pointless, true hybrids come from distinct landraces, I been on the weed train for a long while, Iām yet to learn something new from this site. Yet Iām humble enough to hear.
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@anon27306389 a suggestion to do as much research as possible is pointless? Ok. Thats a new one.
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Yes, some of you guys act a little snobbish for my taste, your answer did have an offensive connotation, tell me is not breeding. Just looking for a straight forward answer, not someone to tell me do countless hours of research.
@anon27306389 , my answer was not, and was not meant to sound snobbish. My suggestion was meant to offer some solid advice and save you months of wasted time and work. Sorry it came across that way to ya.
Hope everything works out. 
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Weāre good, letās squash it. Happy growsā:wink:
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Best pice if advice I can give you, grow the plant ,test them and discard what you donāt need, but the most important do it for fun and because you want it.
Personally at this point I wouldnāt go for any of them,but that is my opinion based on my taste and what I want to do in the next projects.
Called breeding, chuckling anything you want but donāt let anyone put you down, go for it, learn from this experience and do things better next time. Once you know how things work, go ahead do research along the way and keep improving.
Much luck with them hope to see your work.
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I have a question, so I bought a pack of do si dos #4, I want to keep track of what Iām breeding, so is this pack an f2, f3 or what? I canāt find no info, I sent a mail to advanced seeds asking, still waiting, it was not to long a long.
You guys have any idea?
Look for the breeders description of your Do si dos #4 - plus just google do si dos #4 and see if you find anything on your seeds ā¦
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Happy growing,
Gaz
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What breeder is the Do si Dos #4 from?
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