Strain Chat, What does anyone know of Jack Herer, Trainwreck and White Widow Autos?

trainwreck is an Arcata CA emerald triangle clone only photoperiod strain. it is definitely a classic medical line, it was prescribed for asthma and add/adhd in the old california medical system before legalization. the genetics come from mexican brick weed originally, the rest is unclear.

the smell is straight up limonene.

As I said the strain was commonly prescribed for add and asthma, it’s known for being clearheaded and very focused so that breeder’s description doesn’t necessarily ring true. A classic clear headed “up” sativa hybrid high would be a more accurate description I think.

Could be a good one to try in auto form, as the plain limonene smell carries through in hybrids. Be careful about what breeder you work with, trainwreck has been frequently imitated because of the name recognition. Do not buy anything called “trainwreck” from humboldt seed organization. I would caution against humboldt seed organization (HSO) in general, they claim to work with bay area genetics but none of their strains bear any resemblance to the originals.

It also sounds like a lot of the bay area lines sold by “Mark” on strainly are actually the inauthentic HSO versions. Many of the names in his catalog are clone only lines and he cannot provide a good explanation other than that he bought it in seed form. It seems he does not keep close track of the genetics he works with, or he isn’t being straightforward and honest about where he got them. Someone on the forum quoted him as saying his og and bubba were hso stock, which is not genuine.

I have also seen many grow reports in which medical patients wasted time on mark’s autoflower genetics, only for them to turn out as photoperiod lines. If you are helping your friend set up a low maintenance auto grow, I would highly caution you against using mark’s autos.

Hope you are able to find the right meds for your friend.

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if you don’t mind me asking, what are your friend’s medical needs?

These are all lines traditionally used for mental clarity and treating depression. I’m not sure if any of these would be good for relief from physical pain.

@spaceman

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MS
He was diagnosed at the same time as a relative and she succumbed to it last fall.

He mentioned to me once TrainWreck was a fav, I’m doing it for him.

In the early days, his Dr. mentioned several strains popular at the time and he picked out G-13 and Jack Herer clones. Gave him a reference too of a medical grower.
G-13 literally smell bombed the neighborhood but it helped him sleep and Jack was a mood enhancer.
Of which I can attest, :smile:

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Time for my tri-monthly update. lol

In response also to @DougDawson topic about CornKing seed seller.

CK’s Northern Lights Auto 5" tall

CK’s TrainWreck Auto 6"

CK’s WhiteWidow Auto 7.5"

So all of these have been sprayed 2X a day for 17 days with 20ppm colloidal silver, selfmade.
They look rough to me but they just returned from a 540 mile round trip, 10 hrs travel time total.
NL is shaky.
The WW got some crazy burn on one set of leaves IDK.

So here’s the potential receivers of any potential pollen.
TW is in the upper right.

Both of these NL’s look to be doing much better than the one I’m spraying.
( I “accidentally” sprouted two NL’s because I thought I lost one )
Maybe I’ll start spraying one of these instead.

So any one have experience with CS spray?
Is it tough on the plant, to cause that paleness?

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Thanks for this post.

The only strain I’ve heard called out specifically to treat MS patients was Arjan’s Haze 3.
It’s pretty unavailable but I haven’t looked recently as my friend expressed no interest in it even after he read the write ups about it.
But it seems pretty ideal, good indoor growth habit, soars outdoors too.
If I find a good source maybe I’ll surprise him.

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Time for an update.
Here are the auto fems.
TrainWreck lagging.

Here’s the tent grow.
From the right 2 Zamaldelica males 2 females and on the left is a plant grown from the seed of a F1 cross Purple Heart female X Loco Mota male.
3 CS sprayed autos in the foreground.

Insulated box inside that tent.

Powered by $29 light from Menard’s and a single 100 w equivalent 2700k led.

Close ups of auto’s I’m flipping. Or trying to anyway.
I’ve been spraying w/CS at least 2X a day and just now was inspired to rerun my CS in the genny and now am at 25 pm.

White Widow

Northern Lights

Trainwreck

Can’t tell yet if the sprays are working.

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Time for an update.
I posted some of these elsewhere.
Crop King’s auto’s.
White Widow-back
Northern Lights-middle
Train Wreck-front


They look to be doing poorly in their 4"X4"x5" pots.
Since I’ve embraced TLO and then modded it with paramagnetic material I rarely see this.
Even being supplemented with sprouted grain teas, CS sprays 2, 3 times a day are taking a toll.

BUT I’m seeing results.
Train Wreck (blurry, sorry)

Northern Lights

image

Flowers only on the crown.

White Widow, the toughest of the bunch.

Can’t see the white hairs at the top cuz I stupidly shot it against a white background.

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So it looks like a successful reverse, at least for Train Wreck and Northern Lights.

TW

NL

White Widow
She is too hairy to be a male.
(had to read this again, lol)

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I guess I should address the misnamed title I gave this topic.
When I started, Jack was on my list, but Northern lights was there also and won out because it is reputedly one of the lowest odor plants with a terrific profile.
Plus I have remnants of Jack in my Tiger Jack seed AND Rocket seeds included a coupon that amounts to free shipping on my next order.

Free shipping must be the 9th wonder of the world, imo.
With, of course, compounded interest being the 8th.

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I can find seeds from seed banks under that in the USA how about this

# Kilimanjaro Reg 10 pk

Breeder: World of Seeds

Compare

26.00 Excl. tax

Go Michigan!

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Interesting, sure can’t argue about the price!
I wish they put out a little more detail on the genetics.

“An early flowering, pure African Sativa from the Kenyan slopes of Kilimanjaro, this strain is the result of generations of crossbreeding by the native population though she’s since been stabilized to improve some of her properties, such as resin production, while leaving her main qualities and taste intact.”

Leaves me wondering what they were crossing but for $26.00, it might be fun to find out what they have.

Cheers
G

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They turned out real nice

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Thanks bud, I still have a jar and a half of those buds I break out from time to time. I was really pleased with the way they came out.

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I grew white widow my last grow and northern berry

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Outstanding grow

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Thanks for the link.
The only ish is I’m looking for those specific strains.
And @Gpaw , you’re right. Sounds interesting as hell.

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Hey Gpaw,
I’ve been meaning to post this somewhere and maybe I’ll do a topic on it but at this present time, I am FG free.
The only thing that I can attribute this to is the use of neem seed meal in my mix.
I know this is tempting the big middle finger flick in the sky but ALL my indoor plants are bug free.

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That’s interesting, I have read of using neem oil to fight them so sure, the seed cake should work as well.

I’ve been laying the groundwork for a day trip out to Black Swallow Soils

https://blackswallowsoil.com/

I’ve been wanting to try out their KIS mix and Reamendment pack
Neem oil was on the list so maybe I’ll grab some neem cake as well.

Cheers
G

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1- 2 Tablespoons /gal. is recommended I believe, I use 2X that.
Pretty economical/effective.
Win/win.
About your link, not your run of the mill garden supply!

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I am outa likes those are world seeds company you can go to there sight to find info, that vendor has other companies with real good prices as well,

Guess my point is if you only want strain of the day sure your going to pay a bunch for them, everyone can google this years back Calif. State went to all these dispensaries looking to hand out fines seems to me, but anyways they said that after testing something like 3k strains there where only 3 different strains or 3 variations

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