Thanks @repins12
I tried to use it but it wouldn’t let me, guess they really mean it when they say ‘personalized’ discount…
I appreciate it though 
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If you want to split at al let me know. We’re both in Canada anyways. I just want some awesome mutants I can afford haha
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Try opening an account, putting them in your cart and letting it sit. I think in a day or so you will get a code, if you don’t purchase. 
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Looks nice!
Is it an auto?
Very interesting project.
I’ve been doing something similar, but with a duckleaf/bastard leaf approach. I’ve made three duck-bastard crosses. In each of them, the F1 leaf structure reverted to the typical default leaf structure. The F2s show 25%duck/25%bastard/50%typical default. This led me to hypothesize that the genes controlling leaf structure/morphology act as a sort of unique switch but only turns on when paired with a similar matching piece…kind of like in a game of mahjong, but with recessive genes. So theoretically, i could take those typical-default leaf structure offspring and breed them together and they will perpetually produce 25/50/25.
I’m stoned, so I hope that made sense. 
But then i look at your pic of the freak/bastard F1s and the leaf structure seemed to merge together rather than go to the typical-default leaf structure and that throws my hypothesis to the worm bin…unless, the bastard gene and the freak gene are somehow related. Stoner thoughts…hehehe
Has anyone crossed a freak with a duck? What do the F1s look like?
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Yes, it is autoflowering/day-neutral
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you’ll only hit the double recessive 1 out of 16 times in the f2. The combo could be fatal, or one gene could overshadow the other. Did you pop a lot of them?
The typical leaf f2 plants only each have 66% chance of having one copy of abc, and 66% chance of having 1 copy of webbed. So the chances of any plant even having 1 copy of both genes is bad. Their offspring would be mostly normal. So if the combo is the goal, breeding those would be a huge backward step.
The freakshows with 1 copy of the gene probably just looks like that. The bastard is probably silent. But I dont know about that part for sure.
Where are you getting 66%? For each single gene, if the parents were both homozygous alleles of the locus in question, 25% of the F2s will have 2 copies of either allele, 25% will have 2 copies of the other allele, and 50% will be heterozygous with 1 copy of each.
I am adding this text because it is not letting me repost this. I simply wanted to move it from a general reply to a reply to this specific post…
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just look at one gene for simplicity. You would get 25% abc, 50% with 1 copy of abc, and 25% with nothing. You only know the abc by looking at the plants. So take those and set them aside. Now the rest of the plants all look normal, and 66% of them have the gene for abc. The other 33% are regular weed.
Its 2 ways of saying the same thing. Once you remove the known homozygous plants, the numbers play a lil trick is all.
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Ah I see what you’re saying now. Of just the typical leaved plants, excluding the mutants, 66% will have 1 copy of the recessive ABC leaf allele. Thanks.
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From what I’ve seen so far the webbed duck trait and abc trait do not produce an intermediate mutation. Although the freakshow combination is unknown. F1 freakshow X duck results in normal plants. Not sure beyond that, could be interesting
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Really keen to see what comes of these hybrids in the next 12 months. Even through inbreeding of freakshow, I’m sure with numbers it can be pushed further
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And the other crosses I’m working on to add in might hold some gems too.
We really need some more growers who will sprout, look for any obvious mutants to keep, and then breed them and redistribute… it looks like @joshj isn’t on OG any more btw, if you want to delete him from the list of growers.
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How much odor do these guys produce? That I think would be my biggest hurdle in helping with the grow.
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That explains why mine are taking forever to get big but they’re some of the most durable plants I’ve ever had. They can go without water for almost two weeks and never have a deficiency. Also pest resistant, unaffected by a major fungus gnat infestation. Oh, and can handle high heat/humidity. I think they’re site 4 they’ve been in veg for months and look only slightly bigger than the pic which is a couple weeks old now.
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They look good!! Keep us updated on how they go. Looking to flower them out or seed them?
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Seeding them. Hoping one is a male, I also have some subterfuge pollen as well just in case but unfortunately that would ruin the purity. Guess I could keep back crossing it but we’ll see
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Just putting this here also as I believe its really relevant to this project
For those breeding with freakshow traits, here’s some info as I found it impossible to come across any online.
Out of 26 Laos Mango X Freakshow F1 seedlings
13/26 (50%) displayed very little to no unusual leaf structure.
13/26 (50%) displayed obvious visual mutations.
Out of those 13…
5/26 showed a large amount of unusual leaf structure.
It was just a small test it would be good to run out 1000 and get a more accurate occurrence of traits.
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It tastes pretty frickin’ awesome. I’d rate it right up there with Mendo breath as some of the best stuff I had. Gorilla Breath ain’t shabby.
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