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#21

Haha I was until his YouTube channel kept getting canned … I like the growing segments not so much watching him take dabs lol

The MEIZHI was only $200CAN… I guess pretty costly compared to building my own … but as a beginner I wanted to get the basics down pat before I start diving into making my own light … plus I’m no electrician lol so a lot of learning in my future lol

What about adding clay pebbles to the top? Would that help?

If not I may have to try a spout like that … just kind of difficult getting to back row of plants and I don’t wanna move em too much during flowering .

Edit @ReikoX answered my question before I could respond !! Thanks man !

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#22

i did a couple inches of perlite myself, wasn’t sure how that would affect top dressing cause i don’t do that stuff

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#23

Just remember to rinse them off real well first. Voice of experience (VOE).

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#24

I was thinking the same in terms of top dressing … but I gave the girls the last top dressing they will need for the remainder of the grow … I’m curious how it would go for future grows

#25

QUESTION -
In terms of organic growing and keeping benificial bacteria alive and well

I PH water using lemon juice to keep things organic , if I used a PH down product would that have major affects on my benificial bacteria and microbial life in my soil?

I like the lemon juice cus the price is rite but I’m wanting to make a larger water resivoir and lemon juice only lasts about 4 days

What do some of you organic growers use to lower PH?

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#26

As an organic gardener, I don’t pH my water. The plant, along with the microbes, can modify the pH in the rhizosphere where it needs to be. Unless you have super hard water (pH 8+) I wouldn’t bother.

In the past I have used citric acid powder to pH down my hard water. I would mix a working solution of 2.5 grams to 250 ml distilled water. This can then be added at roughly 10ml per gallon as a starting point.

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#27

Nice thanks … ya my water is 8.2-8.5 in my city, so definitely gotta lower it …

Does the Citric acid break down at all? Or would it adjust the PH for long periods of time ?

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#28

It’s likely not as good a phosphoric acid, for long time stability. I don’t bother myself.

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#29

i think i’ve heard people using vinegar as well. thankfully my nutrients bring the tap water right in the desired range

#30

Soil amendments such as dolomite lime, epsom salt or gypsum will help, but at 8 or 8.2 or anything near that, I would go with pH down to correct the water. It will mess up your soil after a time.

#31

Hmm so if it will mess with my soil I’m probably better off just sticking to lemon juice and just PH rite before watering like I have been doing.

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#32

Citric acid is derived from citrus fruits, completely organic, and is even an acid produced by the plant.

#33

ya i get that its organic… i was mainly looking for a organic product that could keep the pH lowered for long periods of time … but as you mentioned its likely not as good as phosphoric acid for long term stability.

i was looking to make a water reservoir and get it to a good ph and not have to worry. but the more i look into it im prob better off sticking to what im already doing with the lemon juice.

#34

It appears the plants are getting sufficient nutrients.

You’re dealing with an unusually high pH just fine it appears.

Here is a guy getting into it.

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#35

So the plant on the right is one of two of my “Carnage” bag seed… it has always been of a lighter shade then all of the others… its starting to get a little more noticeable along the way…
QUESTIONS :

  • keeping things organic is there a fast releasing Cal/Mag tea i could brew? or another common alternative to the bottled stuff?
  • or should i let my organic soil and nutrients just run its course and as you guys so nicely put it “LITFA” ?

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  • SWAYZE :cactus:
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#36

epsom salts for magnesium. i’ve heard of baked and ground eggshells for calcium.

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#37

Wait a second, why do you think you need Cal/Mag? The plant shows neither a calcium nor a magnesium deficiency. A picture without the LED would help a lot. I noticed the purple LEDs tend to accentuate the lighter green plants. When I would look under natural light they were still lush and green.

Keeping it organic, top that pot with about 1/2 inch of worm castings and water it in. Worm castings are coated in calcium carbonate in addition to microbes etc.

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#38

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what do you think?

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#39

maybe slight nitrogen def. how far in flower are they? 2 weeks to go looks like just their natural fade coming on

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#40

May well be she wants more nitrogen, or possibly she’s a quick finisher like @legalcanada said . You just top dresses three days ago, organic nutrients take a while to break down and become available. I would give them some LITFA for a week and re-evaluate.

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