Well, so far I’ve only been ghosted by cannalytic supply. It appears their customer support is nonexistent.
At this point, I can’t say I’d recommend them. Now I’m motivated to source the fast blue b dye.
@deeez99 I’ve ordered chloroform from that source. Thanks for the help! 
Sorry to hear about the lack of communication with them. I had quick turnaround from them up until this last order I made for the extra dye back in April. Had to send a couple emails inquiring about not receiving the order and they did finally reply but it’s till frustrating. Good to hear that you’ll at least be able to move forward still.
Pollen drops are starting, so I’m just collecting and storing for the moment. The Ethiopian female is just going to have to take pollen from all the males. I’d like to have tested them so I could be a little selective, but this is going to have to be OP. I won’t get my solvent for at least a week. Males should be finished by then.
Fortunately I’ll still be able to run a test before the SyrianLeb need pollinated. Also, other good news is that the males seem to be turning out stable after all. I think those initial clusters were just stress from transplanting and their early life issues. Pollen sacs look good now that they’re recovered and growing well.
The back left male plant has some really nice flower structure, but is very similar to the front left as well. Back right is a different pheno, more apical, later maturing, smaller clusters for now.
Looking good! Did the males and females stretch more than you’d hoped or were you planning on them being taller in height than your SyrianLeb dwarfs?
Yeah my goal with the SyrianLeb dwarf pheno was really to breed toward extremely compact node spacing and apical dominance. In part, this is an experiment to see if I can use that with a sativa to land in a sweet spot.
The dwarf is not a good yielding plant, but it has the other characteristics I want — lots of resin, bud density, varied cannabinoids and extremely early flowering.
I didn’t breed it for yield, because that’s a simple equation. Sativas usually have high volume buds, and volume + density = yield. I’m fairly certain that the hybrid will produce some high yielding phenos.
This is kind of a designer process I’ve been working for a few years now. It’s slow going, starting from landraces and building up. But I like smoking what I’m growing and enjoy the process.
I’m trying to get to a stable strain that can operate in hybrids like a NL or g13hp or kush, but without the heaviness and dominance of the afghan genetics which is very heavily represented in most modern strains. I want something that doesn’t stomp out the sativa characteristics quite so much, but finishes early and doesn’t want to grow 15ft.
Maybe I’ll get there, maybe not. I only know that I won’t get there if I don’t try. Just takes commitment and a lot of generational work.
Thanks so much for your explanation and to your commitment in breeding with and towards interesting landrace genetics. It obviously takes a lot of work and time, I’ll be here for it too!
Yeah thanks for following along!
And I wasn’t trying to dis strains like NL, skunk, 88g, etc. Just the opposite really. I think the breeders of those really demonstrated a successful method of transforming landraces and building them into things that really payoff well when you grow them.
One big difference now is that we have almost too much to pick and choose from. We have a lot of potential to build new foundations that make new kinds of hybrids. But it’s also a double edged sword… what do you grow?
I could practically grow a new landrace every grow until I die and never repeat. So it’s hard to take that wealth and apply it to something focused.
That’s what interests me anyway, and it’s fun to look at a plant that most people probably wouldn’t think much of and try to identify what things I like about it and which things I want to fix by hybridization.
did you get some stable males, or do they all pop a few pistils? I don’t see any on the most recent picture.
If you find a stable one, would you cull the ones with pistils?
At the moment, I’m undecided. Two of the males had a few pistils only on the very first pollen sacs that showed up. Since then I’m not seeing any pistils anywhere.
I might chalk it up to stress, since they spent about a week pissed off after transplanting. I might also use the one that hasn’t had any pistils, but it’s a different pheno and I don’t think it looks as good. For now I’m just going to collect pollen until I can see them in late flower and run cannabinoid tests.
Ultimately I’m going to be inbreeding again after I make the cross, so if I make a misstep I’ll just have to rewind and try again.
Pollen is dropping pretty significantly now. This is week these will dump. The female is showing good signs of pollination.
These are pictures of #2, which is the one I think looks the best. I’ve already collected all the pollen I’ll need from these males but they’re just getting started.
Here’s my other plants. You can see the Longmont purple haze getting much bigger than the SyrianLeb. SL are so compact.
I’m gonna transplant the haze tonight into square pots and keep them going in another tent while I collect pollen and wait until I can determine sex. They reek! Even from the time they were babies they just slam you in the face with weed smell when you open the tent.
I have been legging along a few more SL that I’ll put into their places. Then I’ll cull males and phenos until I narrow down a set to cannabinoid test. Coat those with pollen and hope for some magic!
These guys are finishing up their pollen dumps. I’m really happy to see they’re all still looking good, but #2 really stands out for flower/pollen production. No pistils, really easy growing plants.
I’m so waiting to get my solvent to do the tests. Luckily i started the SyrianLeb way behind, and I still have a few weeks.
Here’s some shots of the LPH I’m growing for herbs. I might tag a few buds with some Ethiopian pollen because I can’t resist.
A few of these are finally showing sex, which is perfect timing. I’m going to clean up the tent from all the pollen and put them in with the Ethiopian female this weekend. They still reek in veg. Some very smelly plants.
Final count on LPH was 4 female and 2 male. In the first pic, the one on the right was the one I left out when I chose 3 to flower. It’s kind of a weird looking plant. The internodes are haze but it’s really apical looking.
The lower left plant in the last image is the one I like right now. It’s the smallest, but vigorous and healthy. It also stinks the most.
I’ve gotta kill the males but I might keep the weird female around a bit longer just to see what she does.
LPH are doing great. They’re stinky as hell and just starting to go into flower. I’m pretty excited to see how these come out.
My Syrian Leb had some root rot because I messed up the flood cycle and realized it too late. They’re doing better but I don’t think they’r they’ll fully recover in these tiny tree pots. I’ll limp them along to the finish line.
I had a volunteer plant pop up from a seed in my compost pile. I’ve let it grow out. Pretty sure it’s a SyrianLeb or a Lebanese of some sort. I’ll keep track of it and know more if it’s a female.
In other news, I did finally receive by full kit from cannalytic supply, so I can complete my first tests this weekend. My order of chloroform from Lab direct still has not shipped and the company does not respond to emails. Looks like I’ll have to call my credit card company and cancel the charges.
Hope you’re having a great summer.
Ah geeez sorry to hear about the chloroform order. I feel bad that my recommendations so far have been nothing but trouble for you. I really did a have a good experience with both companies but maybe I got lucky. Looking forward to your first tests though.
No worries at all! I asked for your experience with those companies and yours was good. Mine was bumpy, but I’ve got a reading. So I consider it a success overall.
@deeez99 what do you think? I’m interpreting as no CBD and the most THCV in the second from the left, as well as a stronger CBG signal on that one.
Hey great job with the test results and yes I’d interpret it the same way as you. I’d have to scroll back a bit but are these the male plants you are testing or a mix?
