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In the video they caution exceeding 200x concentrate because of “the limit of solubility”. From a quick glance to me it seems like a recipe that would end up using 20CC would be around the maximum you would want based on their recommendations. Since they recommend 100x and most people with injector systems seem to use that (tried and true) it’s probably what I’ll go with, and just order a 50 or 60 cc syringe… I’ll either make up 1 GAL over the weekend or just divide everything by 4 and make up 1 Quart (946ML).

Per 1 US GAL (3785.412 ML) - normal 3-2-1 recipe
Part A 3.79 grams
Epsom Salts .99 grams
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Part B : 2.52 gr

And so to make a 100x concentrate

Per 1 US GAL

Part A 379 grams
Epsom Salts 99 grams
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Part B 252 grams

1 US GAL = 3785.412 ML / 100 = 37.8ML Per Gallon of both Part A/Epsom and Part B concentrates.

Epsom salt and Part A can go in the same concentrate according to their chart

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Here’s the TS x SSDD. I pulled 1 obvious male and a few others will be next.

My home soil mix is pretty heavy so I bought a bag soil from a local nursery and the plants simply would not grow. They started yellowing and I was worried I was going to lose all of them. I transplanted them into my soil mix and then they started to take off.

Once I have room, I’m going to take more clones and flip these.

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Bigger pots’ll definitely help them get going. Do you ever use compost teas? I’ve noticed that my plants’ll really “blast off” after I water with one, no matter the size of the pots they’re in. I usually make a point to water with one when they’re vegging (the earlier the better) and then again right before or right after I flip.

I haven’t watered with the second compost tea yet for the plants I have flowering right now, probably oughta do that asap haha…

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Nice, thanks for posting! Hope you find something worthwhile in whatever you end up flowering out. Everything looks nice and healthy in your soil mix.

Usually I’d agree with that, but if the soil is suspect (his local nursery soil in this case) sometimes just getting them out of it can be the best course of action too. Who knows what was in that soil and at what ratios.

Here’s the frostiest SSDD right now - none of the 4 have the “bubbashine pheno” level of stem frost. This one smells very nice and candy sweet right now. Only one that’s standing out at this stage of flowering.

SSDD #2

Kale turning purple outside. I like the way the veins look on the leaves that are still half green.

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I used to make teas and would get some great results but I don’t anymore. I just pre-mix or top dress everything. Not because I’m against it. I just became lazy lol

I should try making some again. What kind do you make? Just earthworm castings and molasses?

Thanks! And yeah, I think it was the nursey soil that didn’t work great for me. I was trying to avoid burning them with my mix but in the end I think I just wasted time and money.

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Come to think of it, an EC meter may be nice for the concentrated solution to make sure that the feed strength is appropriate. Still not going to buy one any time soon because I’m not up for spending money right now, will just test the concentrated solution on veg plants for a while.

Made 1 GAL of Part A + Epsom salts and it was pretty easy. I pre-measured the Part A into 379 Grams / Epsom salts 98 Grams and then I did it in 4 batches. 3 batches of Part A on the stir plate and then 1 batch of the epsom salts.

Part A


Epsom Salts

Done

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I know you’re not asking me but I couldn’t help myself. I use the tea lab formula with the fish hydrosolate over the molasses and the plants absolutely love the fast hitting N from it. It’s great especially if the plants are showing deficiencies and it’s going to nip most issues in the bud should you catch it fast enough.

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Yeah, four gallons water, 1.5 cups of EWC/compost and 1/3 cup molasses.

The reason I suggested a compost tea is because I think that it sorta “balances” everything out. Like, if you’re using shitty soil, a compost tea’ll make it “work” better than if you never watered with one at all.

For some reason I have an EC meter in one of my kitchen drawers, no idea where it came from. I start a new job this Monday; once I get paid, I can send you mine if you want haha.

Seriously, though, you can have it. I honestly don’t know where it came from.

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You might need it when you get tired of mixing soil all the time!! Appreciate the offer , but I just impulsively decided to start using the solution. After sitting overnight there still isn’t any sandy looking salt on the bottom, so I think it mixed up really well. If plants start looking suspect at least I’ll have a good guess as to why.

As a side note, 1 of the FT leaves are doing some slight curling as if they are unhappy with the feed (up until now, not new solution).

That’s what I’ve always read - “Keep it simple” (not necessarily Tad Hussey’s company). Water , quality compost, molasses, and good aeration. I remember reading often MicrobeMan and others were adamant about not adding a bunch of stuff to “improve” the teas.

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Haha, nahhhh, you can have it if you want. I’ll never get tired of mixing up soil! Never!

Seriously, man, take the fucking EC meter haha.

Yeah, that’s the thing with those compost teas and one of the main things I took away from reading about them, was that the GPM rate was the key. Or whatever. Those little aquarium bubbler things weren’t enough, basically, gotta have one of those loud-ass pumps that vibrates the floor in the grow room haha.

Or wherever one brews their teas.

Yeah, MicrobeMan’s website breaks all that stuff down about why you shouldn’t add anything besides compost and molasses etc.

I dunno. I think compost teas “work.” I mean, I think my soil mix is probably pretty good right now and always has been, but I also think that it can always use a little “kickstart.” I really have noticed that with seedlings especially, they’ll kinda just be all tiny for a week or two and then, after I water with a tea, they take off.

Who knows?

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I’ll be transparent and add I don’t follow the full recipe I posted. At most I’ll add the extra kelp. But the main 2 ingredients remain.

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Tim says that adding kelp isn’t necessarily “detrimental,” but that the ratios matter.

I’ll just post his thing here so that anybody who’s interested can read it: http://microbeorganics.com/

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Field Trip (gsc x ssdd) leaves are looking pretty narrow. Everything is to an extent…


GG4 x SSDD

SSDD 1

SSDD 2 - good amount of frost starting to develop. Nice sweet smells on this one and #3.




SSDD 3

SSDD 4

Tent / phone shots



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Plants are looking excellent though. I think next run I’m going to give the jacks a go.

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Man, those two plants on the left and right in the back row really had one branch shoot way up, huh? That’s pretty cool. Which ones are those?

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left = GG4 x SSDD
right = SSDD

A lot of it has to do with how they were pruned and cuttings were taken prior to flipping. I should have prune a lot more off of the GG4 x SSDD - not a fan of how many small branches it has right now.

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I figured the kelp can’t hurt but honestly I remember when I was new I was buying every product recommended and these days I take a less is more approach. I can’t even remember the last time I used aloe or coconut even in my living soil. I used to use it religiously and it probably does something under the soil, but it’s not necessary I’m finding.

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Forgot here are the Malawis





SSDD #3 - sharp and sweet artificial blueberry smell on this one right now. #2 smells the same. Both are starting to put out some stem frost now


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Been sampling the 5150 TK x TK #1 a bit now that it’s cured and it appears to have gotten much more potent.

This was the one where I felt like it was weaker when compared to the other early samples. I am sampling the organic buds now because they are at the top of the bag, so that’s another variable. My tolerance may also be bit lower than it was when I last sampled it.

Effects are lasting a good 3 - 3.5 hours. Pretty strong and reminds me a lot of the Chem 91 that I grew earlier in the year. Doesn’t really have any of the “UP” effects that the TK FJ cut does for me though. Nice and relaxing. Odor is strong and lingers on you after breaking up buds for a long time. Tastes fine - like generic Cannabis to me. High quality buds in my opinion. I don’t regret culling the mom, but could definitely see myself growing out the rest of the seeds at some point.

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Yeah, what’s up with that? Why do you think that happens? I mean, a long cure affecting the smells/flavors makes sense to me, just because of the chlorophyll stuff. Or whatever. But why does curing longer seem to make the actual high of certain cultivars more intense, too?

I’m asking because I got into one of the Angelicas a couple nights ago thinking that it would ease me into a good night’s sleep, like it’s always done, and it didn’t really do that at all haha. Not the first time that something like that’s happened, either.

How long has that 5150 etc #1 been in the bag now?

Sounds like good weed, anyway. I don’t necessarily mind “generic”-type flavors, if the high is great. Sometimes those “classic” flavors are a nice change of pace haha…

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