Maybe it’s the clear trichomes turning cloudy during cure?
My only other thought is, when it’s not cured there’s still a lot of moisture in there. So when you smoke, you’re smoking more of the plant, that moisture, than the cannabinoids themselves. When it’s dried/cured proper, there’s not a lot of moisture in the flowers. That should mean less actual smoke from the same amount of flower. so the smoke is literally more concentrated than it was when it was wet 
At least 30 days
No clue, I don’t even have a firm understanding of the curing process. Is ethylene gas involved and playing a role? There are also a lot of variables that are hard to account for, such as sampling flowers from different plants or parts of the plant.
Maybe there are Cannabinoids that synergize with each other to make the total experience more intense, and the curing plays a role there through an extended ripening process. On the flip side, maybe there are less stable Cannabinoids that mellow out or block some of the psychoactive effects and they aren’t present in as high of numbers after going through the curing process. I’ve had plenty of herb that I’ve loved the effect of that seems to lose its magic once cured, just like I’ve had herb become significantly stronger after a cure.
Ya that’s another consideration.
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. What Holy said does, too. It’s been a long time since I’ve done any reading about the curing process and why we do it, maybe I’ll refresh my memory today. I feel like everything I’ve ever read about it mostly focused on how it affects the smell/flavor and the “smoothness” of the smoke, without ever getting into why the actual high is also different between uncured or shorter-cured weed and stuff that’s been in jars for months.
I will say that that Angelica seems to be smoking a lot more like most of Bodhi’s 88G hybrids now, six months after jarring, with that sort of “electric” first hour or so where my mind won’t shut up and I feel ever-so-slightly edgy. I dunno if that’s good or bad haha, just something I noticed.
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I’ve read that Diablo OG is a re-named cut of Ghost OG. I’ve been trying to get my Devil’s Hashplant mom back to health because all the recent cuttings I’ve tried to take have failed. It’s not doing the greatest so the seed/hlvd thing is freaking me out too. I’ve heard the interviews where Bodhi talks about losing plants to dudding.
Growing the rest of the pack I didn’t find much other special stuff but the one I kept leans OG I think. I don’t wanna lose it.
Think most of us following are here for the long haul regardless of what you grow. Here for the conversation too 
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I’ve had some lateral branching and the plant looks like it has general deficiencies. It had (or has) stem rot and half the stem has died back.
This plant has always been a littler slower and fussier but it always kicks in gear during flower. I didn’t use the healthiest clone last time I cycled the mom and I think a lot of issues came from that.
No idea if it’s actually hlvd. Probably just the stem rot and sick in general. I’ve never taken in clones. There’s some stuff coming out lately though that shows a huge percentage of the seeds gets infected though.
This guy says its in the seeds, the dried flower, everything. It’s making me never want to step foot in a dispensary ever again. Not like I wanted to anyways.
Only a few years ago most of us had never even heard of hlvd. Everyone was still talking about tobaco mosaic virus. We’re all just learning as we go.
Testing isn’t too expensive these days at least. Around $100 all said and done for 5 test results from 3rivers.
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I actually prefer the more “up” kinda highs, just wasn’t expecting it from a jar of weed that’d been knocking me out for the past five months prior.
It’s interesting, anyway.
Don’t you have a bunch of older seeds, though? Like from before the HLVD thing was even a thing?
It’s also interesting that you brought up the Green Curry OG, if only because I have “f2’s” from nube’s Cheech Wizard repro or whatever haha. His (nube’s) plants looked fine during the seed-making process and that Green Curry plant was an old-ass cut, before the HLVD shit was as rampant as it is now. I haven’t listened to the podcast that you’re referring to, but I’m not worried about those seeds at all.
I’m not too sure why Bodhi might mention that in a podcast, besides the fact that everybody’s worried about that shit right now.
I get that. Same reason I’ve never, ever fucked with clones. It’s not worth the risk.
Having said that, I think that if the seeds you have in your fridge are either from breeders you trust or they’re older than two or three years, you’re probably alright. I’m happy with what I’ve got in the fridge, anyway, no desire to buy anything else.
Yeah, man, I mean… Whatever you wanna do is good haha. If you don’t wanna pop “outside” seeds or you’re feeling leery about shit, don’t do it.
In any event, I’ve tuned out pretty much everything in the last year or so, weed stuff, politics, whatever, if for no other reason than because of exactly this sorta thing. It’s good to know as much as you can about everything, but at some point it just becomes,”Alright, I’ve heard enough. Now I’m just gonna do my own thing. Not worried about what anybody has to say about anything at all…”
Things start to get to you, ya know? Ignorance is bliss. Or whatever…
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I listened to the new Bodhi interview today with HeavyDaze, sounds like he is getting a lot of his mother stock from Haze Valley, where he is doing a lot of testing/exploration. I know they are doing testing for HLV, so I’m not too concerned. I don’t think Bodhi would fuck with anything he felt was infected these days. He doesn’t have any of his old clones left either, beside his Saint’s Crossing (Stevie Wonder). So going forward it’s all new stuff… He even touches on his new company, interestingly geared toward the hype seed market… he did give a nice shoutout to Overgrow too, mentioning the F2 efforts here.
Personally, I think the HLV is a little overblown, but that’s just because i don’t have personal experience with it, even after bringing in a bunch of clones and shit, I’ve never noticed anything “wrong” with my plants. I’d say don’t let the fear of that hold you back from popping more seeds. I also understand just wanting to focus on want you like and want to explore though. Nothing wrong with either, do what you want, we’ll be here to watch…
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Sorry but may I ask where bodhi mentioned the hlvd thing @syzygy ?
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I hadn’t heard about that green curry. I hope it’s around and not infected. Curry terps what a crazy plant.
Thanks for clarifying. I never knew that but I also admittedly don’t get that involved in the back story of things. I figure I have loads of seeds that are older and I can focus on those and be fine.
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I do agree we want more transparency.
The whole thing is just so complicated (potentially.) For example any of us humans that have had chicken pox are carrying around that latent virus right now. It can potentially come back in the form of shingles, and we could potentially never have to deal with it again… Stuff like Hep B is similiar - many healthcare workers were exposed to hep B back in the day, fought it off, and probably have a better equipped immune system now, yet still have core antibody tests come back positive for the virus. I always end up feeling like humans are so confident we know everything, but we really probably know next to nothing lol.
