Can I hang one with a light behind it to attract fungus gnats?
(Tent not big enough to get a full swing at the little #@#$@)
Or perhaps over a bowl of cider vinegar they like,
zapped going for it or drown in bowl.
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I have to buy 2 every year…1 for each boy 
Somehow, they get a wire or 2 bent on them though have had a few short out when a mosquito get stuck and have to either dig it out or it’ll zap the one spot til it turns to dust and falls out as tapping it on its side only makes it worse so I imagine, i’ll have lots of parts to do this in the future so i’ll just stock pile them for lots of parts instead of throwing them out lol
Now I will have to read up on this more and follow your results to see if its something I want to try though pretty intrigued at the moment
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Now that is a great idea.
Welcome HalfBee and thanks!
Yellow sticky traps are part of my strategy for dealing with these pests.
The EFS I used has a bright yellow frame, I envision putting a bright yellow sheet, hopefully plastic, behind one side and mounting it flat against the wall of my tent.
edit Now that I think about it, the yellow sticky traps are the only yuck factor in my setups.
At first I used to glory over each one of those stupid dots with wings stuck there. But along with those root aphids came fungus gnats and they are big enough to free themselves from the traps sometimes.
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Welcome MomOTR!
Definitely pull up a chair then.
I am a sucker for the potential this offers and plan to use this on garden seeds as well.
camelina sativa for oil seed, okra and malabar spinach for veg and rye and hairy vetch for cover crop.
C’mo-on spring!
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Hi Doulivebeef and welcome!
If you’ve been following the progress here it stands the only viable plants in this grow are from treated seed.
It would truly be a miracle if this device could terminate the Terminator.
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Keep in mind, the EFS will be generating a fair amount of ozone. I have no idea if that would be good or bad, but something to consider in an enclosed space.
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Just did a quick check online about ozone production and it seems electrostatic ozone production requires arcing for production. Not to diss your point but these EFS draw 3v. I think the effect of operating these continuously would be more like an air ionizer effect.
Presently I have a high static pressure fan in my tent that passes tent air through 32 oz of activated charcoal on the exit point,
I don’t think the plants would be harmed in my present setup should I try this.
Of greater concern to me would be the effect of using sprays in my tent while this was operating, which means you couldn’t do spraying. Once the plants mature they can be quite a handful to remove from the tent for sprays.
Of course the best alternative plan is to take immediate action once the sticky traps collect flies.
For me that means a 12 hr soak in water and Dawn original dish soap, castile soap can also be used.
A cup of suds per 20 gal seems to work fine followed by a hour rinse/soak, twice per pot.
Then reestablish the mini herd.
My application of the EFS would only be if the traps showed activity in the last month or so of flower when overnight dunking would not be considered. In this case sticky traps could use the help to see you through to harvest.
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Ozone generators work from something called silent coronal discharge. Thats not the same as arcing.
That 3 volts from the batteries is being converted to hi-voltage inside the unit. It will be on the order of several hundred volts at the screens at a minimum, and up to maybe a few thousand. Three volts wont even begin to fry a bug.
And yes - ionizing air (the oxygen anyway) is exactly how you generate ozone 
One benefit of ozone would be odor control. The possible downside is its highly toxic in higher doses - both to plants and humans.
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Thanks for the explanation, I did not know this.
I don’t have a spare atm to test but I get no odor from the two plates in the EFG.
Maybe because they are glued between two acetate plates and present only little area to air could possibly be one explanation for this.
I will seal the edges of those plates to prevent any air infiltration.
Thanks again. Good post.
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Yes ozone is really good at eating odors, but its probably not the safest stuff. Smells like electricity lol
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Remember that cell phone use has been linked to brain tumors and cancers and that people who live under/near hi-voltage transmission lines have also seen higher rates of cancer, and dont forget microwaves cook things, so I wouldnt discount the damage even a weak (compared to gamma, x-rays, etc) field can do over time - especially if there is ozone or other ionization going on. Ionized anything is highly reactive and usually damaging to what ever it reacts with.
I happen to think this whole theory is at least a little ways into tin foil hat territory, especially about reverting genes, but its still fascinating
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This concept is quackery with no basis in reality. No offense.
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Shhhh mate, I’m looking forward to see his conclution on this experiment.
Now I kinda feel that I made, a brand new tinfoil hat for no reason.
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Wow.
There’s so many things wrong with your link it’s hard to find where to start.
The author automatically labels it a “conspiracy theory” as though this were some dastardly scheme to steal your money when in fact, from the link, " Ebner’s plucky son, Daniel, has continued his father’s research. According to one source he has obtained the patent for the technology and made it publicly available."!
How dare the scoundrel! Offer his father’s key work to the world - for free!
Then there’s this gem: “The idea of using a static electric field in order to change gene expression has been studied. In one study, for example, applying an electric field accelerates differentiation but reduces proliferation.”
This is a far cry from inferring that nothing is taking place like this article claims. And if I understand what the words “differentiation” and “proliferation” mean. the (human)cells involved show change and a reduced number of divisions.
Perhaps it’s the frequency they used that differs from my <$20 rig but I am seeing the opposite.
So far 3 of the treated seeds have sprouted and broke surface compared to 0 in the control group.
Again, I used twice the number of seeds for the control. This appears to me to be significant. The 4 I selected for the test were picked using the infallible “eeny, meeny, miney mo” process.
Rather than go on a point by point takedown of the article and the author who seems to be a Big Ag apologist, I’d like it if folks read my posts on the subject and also your link to see who has an axe to grind. So for those still interested in an actual test of this process, rather than a drive by critique, stick around.
Any way here is an update:
OK I messed around with my unit with some design changes. The first run showed some weaknesses I could change quick.
First off, the “on” led was on one side, I want to rotate it 90 degrees so it will be visible regardless of which side is up or down.
Second, it was still too big and soldering to the battery terminals was embarrassingly lazy.
Third, I didn’t show any pics of the interior, mainly because my phone cam is whack. It took 20 shots to get those below.
Here’s how I wired it:
Rig after mods:
More pics later …
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I am not defending the specifics of that article. It was just the first I found that talked about some of the reasons the claimed effect isn’t real. Particularly how the code of nonexpressed genes will mutate to nonfunctionality. If you did activate nonfunctional genes they would have to have been extreamly recently evolved to not be expressed to still be functional.
Scientifically there just isn’t a way to resurrect previous genotypes via electrical fields. It may have effects in epigenetic gene expression (of genetic information already present in the organism), but it is not going to undo any particular genetic change from its ancestral form, whether arising from evolution or genetic modification. And if it truly can affect epigenetic gene expression in a significant way you would likely kill the organism, since epigenetics are how specialized tissues form. Nonspecific alteration of epigenetic gene expression certainly wouldn’t improve an organisms growth potential.
As far as the background story, I really can’t find any information on the scientists involved other than from the websites claiming this effect was discovered from them, so I don’t even know if they’re real people.
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Update #2 out of the soil. #4 didn’t make it, 
All three have struggled to shed their coats. You can see there’s plenty of rough and scratchy new perlite in the mix too.
Tough to tell from the following but believe me, nothings going on in the next pic besides #2.
I’ll give them until the full moon. This will stop this experiment, though I’ll continue to grow out #1 and #3.
Here they are with older cousins Tiger Jack 1 and Tiger Jack 2 (Golden Tiger x Jack Herrer).
edit) Plus I will rerun the test with a newer batch of seed.
I have access to 3 cell phones and 1 tablet and i can’t take a good picture with any of them.
Any suggestions? Cheap suggestions that is, I’m a skinflint.
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Well you definitely can’t believe everything you read on the internet!
I believe the reason this subject has few published papers is because experimental studies made by noted universities are funded by the same people the author of your link seemed to represent, Big Ag.
Remember these people are trying to patent naturally occurring organisms and processes. I wouldn’t put it past them to try and discredit any new process until they can adapt it for their profit.
Also this patent was just made public recently, I assume testing is still underway with cross studies included.
These will probably be done by a smaller college by some prof who has more curiosity than sense. Early results outside of the accepted norm are usually met with ridicule, especially from academia
I do think it’s problematic to assume that what makes up our knowledge of DNA and the living cell is complete enough to understand what the possible outcomes of any stimulus applied to germination will do.
The explosion of new evidence, formerly “fringe” science is now dominating ALL aspects of modern science, genetic sciences included. And I am examining one of these evidentiary methods.
Thanks for your posts, I really appreciate your level headed criticism and my opportunity for rebuttal, perhaps there is something here of benefit to our community.
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Sorry OniTenshu for not answering you before.
I couldn’t frame my response adequately before, but here goes.
The smallness of my test has an extremely limited value for the number of questions I have.
- The supposed throwback manifestations in the above videos are mystifying to me.
- MicroDoser and I ask; are these changes inheritable?
- If there are hidden traits that the process reveals, what are they?
- Will there be observable, physical differences between the test and control groups?
- And going way out on a branch, can this process ultimately discover if the 3 main types of cannabis have a common ancestor?
- Last, can this have an effect on potency?
Now that is an answer I plan on obtaining!
My hope is that the Ebner Effect unleashes this plant’s true genetic potential that is beneficial to the user.
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Well, I have major reservations, and doubts, but I wish you the best of luck!!
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Yes. Plate tectonics used to be fringe. It’s the claim of ‘revival of ancestral’ genotypes I take issue with. I am open to electroculture techniques. Plant cells have membrane potentials and plants definitely respond to electricity. You may very well see something like faster germination. But the claims of induced atavism just don’t make any sense.
Meanwhile, the information rabbit hole I went through reading some of those fringe articles lead me to this PDF of Plant Electrophisiology edited by Volkov. It is an overwhelming amount of information, and will probably be shelved a bit (years) before I read most of it. I have a ridiculous reading list right now as it is. However, I have skimmed chapter 11 since it seems most directly applicable:
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