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D150 F97 FW14 
Two days shy of 15 weeks in flower 
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Sophia 
got the chop today.
the plant is no more
her tree hangs behind the door
dry now, slow, then cure
Absolutely the weirdest plant ive grown to date. Revegged somehow, at some point, (we think) and then, very slowly, exploded en foxtailia all over itself. Nearly every branch Hulked the fuck out from the main stem to the tips, in frosty, sticky, pointy hat nugs.
Tried to get shots of the unders, but her canopy was like a stormfront of bud, blocking any useful lines of sight of the branch structure.
Easily my heaviest at time of chop. My arm got tired trying to hold it up for pictures 
Actual underside- dense AF
Since the buds were so heavily mashed together, i split her into 4 parts and stretched the branches a bit before feeling safe enough hanging her.
Even then i still had to untangle a few bud bunches - normally when i crisscross branches they are just two sticks crossing over each other at the end, but Sophia was like an organic velcro puzzle 
knot i had to untie, like a twisty cauliflower…
United we fall, divided we hang
Into the poor man’s cannatrol with you, my final (golden) girl of summer 🥲
Low, indirect circulation fans, and outtake blower fluxing btw 0% (off) and 5% to regulate btw 60% and 64% for the next 14 days. Keeping an eye on the numbers throughout and adjust on/off parameters as needed.
No clue at all what kind of smoke it’ll end up with, but so looking forward to her all cured up 
:fog:
Needless to say, my future plant plans are to make taller plants, with greater stretch, and smarter bud placements. And, you know, 9-10 week flower max 
@shade @Papalag @HeadyBearAdventures @SaintAliasKnife (and everybody who i may have missed) Thankya big big to you who helped guide my boat down this river. I hope someday to repay the favor, or at least pay it forward for others, like a true OG 🪴🌅
Peace and Appreciation are my feelings today, and i have way more than i need- please take as much as you want, whenever you drop by 
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Very cool brudda. I’m equally curious to see what she holds!
Truly one of a kind 
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I really enjoyed reading through the thread and learning about several things. The octopots especially. Great pics and info should I chose to go that route.
Where might I find Thermopan locally? Doesn’t seem to be available at the standard Lowes/Home Depot. I need to build some small internal ductwork as well, that looks perfect! I had kinda resolved to using foam board for similiar things, but I don’t like the exposed paper. I guess I could cover with aluminum tape, but it just seems like a big compromise. The thermopan stuff looks IDEAL, especially since you can just fold the shape of duct you want and it’s all aluminized surfaces.
On the same topic, you like that 181B-FX tape or is there a better option? This I can find easily
Following now, looking forward to keeping tabs on things. Good luck on the new run!
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Hey there friend!
Thank you for stopping in 
Thermopan i got through amazon, (pre pandemic) when it was 45$ less than it is now. Even then i nearly balked at the price Link to the box i got some years ago
I remember looking elsewhere once i found out about it, but never saw it in person. Other online places have the same thing at almost 100$ more than amazon!
But id still get it again if i needed it. Amazing properties, simple and easy to work with for many different applications.
And for tape- im no expert, but this “181 A-P / 181-B-FX” is the only tape i found so far that i trust to stay put in my boxes 
with the kind of humidity i throw at it. I have multiple rolls of others that i rarely use for important stuff, but i always re-up this one when i run out. Not super easy to work with until you get used to it. It is really rigid, so you gotta really make sure it goes on smooth, and it Reeks for a good while (im super sensitive to breathing chemical stuff so maybe y 
mv) , but its the best tape for what i need it to do as far as i am concerned.
Currently not available it seems from amazon, but at 30$ (three years ago) this i’ll also buy again as soon as i need to (assuming it comes back 
), even if it went double the price. Id just use half as much
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Thanks!
I did find this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Thermopan-24050-24-x-47-5-Ultra-Fire-Resistant-Duct-Panning-Sheet
Only a few bucks for shipping so I did it. I don’t think I have the space to stow a box of the stuff for the next 15 years it’d take me to use it all. I want to make 23" wide x 6-10" tall ducts/light baffles so I went with the wider size so I can make sure the corrugations line up the way I want although I assume they run the long way. Just a more versatile size for me.
I’ll find as close as I can to the tape following the 181B-FX convention, which should be the same basic tape. I’m used to using copper tape at work so used to the rigidity of metal tapes in general hopefully it’s not too much of a stretch.
Beautiful job setting up your spaces and nice grow despite the crazy long flowering! I meant to include that on my first post but hadn’t. Great work!
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Sounds good
I hope you like it
If using for light baffles- you might need to line it in a few spots with much less reflective material. The surface is not quite a mirror but close enough to carry more photons than i expected, even around multiple bends. 
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Yeah absolutely. I’m going to spray paint the inside surfaces and the baffles flat black before I close it up.
Excited to give it a shot and happy to have learned about it
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Sophia Dry Day 7
Had a brief overnight period the other day where the box dropped to 54%. Took the res it grew in, washed it and the roots clean, added a couple inches of clean water, and put it all under her hanging spot. Rh back to fluxing right in range. Happy camper again
Rose 
Cure day 20
Still holding 62% in her main grove bag.
Trim/shake is also curing, at 52%. Smoke report at this point:
Not Too Shabby 
Method: tiny bit of very airy trim, crispy bits and a little squish in the middle. Dry herb log vape through a dry glass bubbler, all glass rig.
Nose: still shedding the odd chemmy/chlorophyll smell, but it smells like… ozone or something, like going outside when its cold sometimes 
its curing but its still leafy shake odd smell is not unexpected.
Effects: are more or less immediate, with a medium strong 
impact
Perception of my physical movement around the house was fluid, swimming in the air kind of, some light cosmic forces pulling me in one definite direction- the couch 
After a brief uh-oh-WTF-did-i-grow few moments of heart palpitations 🫣, everything settled nicely in place. Dreary day felt a little brighter, Zelda felt a little more engaging, and adventure seems a lot more adventuresome 
Eyes and mind a little sharper when i focus on something, but focusing on things feels rather…. optional haha. Im glad i got all my stuff done today beforehand. Still rocking the couch a few hours later lol.
Taste: would normally have been reported second, but i wanted to save the most interesting for last. Throughout flowering, her smell profile was very blueberry/muffin/pie 
but her vapor tastes like, no lie, tomato soup 🫢 
. Creamy tomato soup! I really hope that sticks around in the actual buds i intend to smoke for real, a first for me in flavor terms, and a cool thing to taste.
Overall: still curing, but i am 
jazzed:zap: ill have an interesting flavored hard hitter in my jars for a long while. Excited for what a full 60 day cure might bring out in her.
Freezer babies 
Fran, Joe, mug1 and mug2 chillin out, freezer style 
, being babies together
Joe (Scarlet Grapes Auto)
Swinging in from the right- no idea why its not dead yet after my torture experiment. Guess I’ll keep going til she either lives a happy sideways life or taps out. Her choice to make
Fran (Frankenstein)
In back, little shorter than her siblings but happy so far.
Mug 1/2 (Ketosis x Ice Cream Cake 98)
Both doing ok, one went loopy so i gave her a crutch to lean on
Ill bury any stretch when i transplant so she’ll get sturdy later.
Good day to you all OG, and to all a good day
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Sprouters!
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Love the smoke report 
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Sad Update on Sophia 
(after some pictures of hope)
Vaped some shake- Extra dark caramel candy on the nose, lots of that came through in the vapor, even after only 16 days in the dry box at 62%.
High was blunt but had vibewaves. I found myself wanting to give the
heh look to the person next to me on the couch- only to find out i was alone - and ’d anyway.
Then i found a little gray mold in one of the bigger colas.
And then a little more. And then a little more.
Seemingly isolated to just two biggest colas, but after i raised the panic beacon here and heard the advice on both sides of the coin, and slept on it, and then flipped an actual coin… Sophia 
is a total loss. Sunk cost is not worth a potentially tragic health risk, even if minimal.
Big sad, but also a big step forward for me as a grower. With help from the OG knowledge base, and the gods of probability/multiversinal outcome, i was able to objectively review my scenario, and superimpose it against my goals and core principals. It just didnt make sense to risk our health, even a little.
I have to imagine the mold was all up in there during the 15 weeks of flower in which she revegged for some reason (still havent figured that out yet), and it was crazy humid at times, and she was Way way denser in All the buds, even the larfy unders, than could be sucessfully ventilated. Thats on me for not mitigating.
Other things noted during trim- all the foxtails and a bunch of the unders had spots where it looks like she tried to make seeds, but ended up with just quasi-seedinous masses in the “pods”. Maybe thats how seeds Start? The tips of the tails were hard spiny stem bits, or half seeds. Dunno, i loved her to death, but she was a weird, weird ass plant. RIP Sophia . Maybe ill run you again, way way differently.
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Aw bummer dude! Sorry it went that way. I’m thinking about getting a hypochlorous acid generator so I can treat big dense buds prophylactically, as well as use it for IPM.
Also, I know it isn’t my fault, but I do feel bad about saying to run her to finish…even smoking unripe flower is better than none at all.
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Now. Our gaze is onward, to a brighter tomorrow 
Freezer Babies
D23
Fran
Mug 1
Mug 2
Joe
I was underfeeding them for a while and its been super dry last few weeks (35%)
So they started out a little anemic and wrinkly, but they are bouncing in the upwardly direction
Joe is doing much better than i expected 
This is my gentle humidification solution: hydroton in a jar, with small amount of distilled water, usb fan blowing 
(seems to be working OK so far to bring it up ~10%, but is this a stupid idea?)
Genius/stupid idea check#2 - straight from the dugout
5 gallon nutes reservoir with stainless steel replacement spigot. This way i can mix 5 gallons at a time instead of 2x1 gallons in about the same amount of time. Works perfectly (so far). So im currently on team genius, and in love with it…. (Voters wanted)
Thanks all, see you when i see you
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Brother bear- I’m convinced you were right on the money timing wise 
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Your advice was timely and welcome. If i was a little luckier it could have gone better.
Ultimately though, we shape our own luck, and make our own decisions. And either see/feel what is needed when it matters, or we don’t. I didn’t this time - next time, after this experience, hopefully i’ll have a better chance.
And i got plenty of bud for the winter 
Thanks for stopping by!
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This is why I don’t feel really bad.
One of my favorite quotes:
All that you touch you change, all that you change changes you, the only lasting truth is change; shape change.
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Liking your inventive spirt @Not-Notjosh !
The humidifier looks cool. Not sure if you saw my setup but it took me from about RH 55% to 85% for no cost. Works on the same concept as any other evap humidifier. Only advice I would give is you need more airflow if you hope to raise the humidity more. With the closed jar, the airflow is minimized in your setup.
The Res is nice too!
I stole an idea from @GrouchyOldMan and purchased a $20 UVC aquarium light to minimize gunk in the stale darkness of the res.
Looking good!
Thanks!
John
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They sell these black rocks at my local headshop that they claim are capable of doing the same thing as a boveda pack but they’re pretty big. I thought about buying some to try for the drying tent but maybe they’d work well similar to how you have the hydro ton working now? I’ll ask the manager what they’re called next time she’s working but you might be able to find them with a search.
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I’m still fearful of overdoing humidity (given my “recent” mold issue), but that’s wearing off little by little. Really my concern was them shrivelling up and becoming crispy critters 
before they had a chance to establish themselves in their solo root zones. That little rh% bump seemed to breathe the life i was looking for back into them, so im happy!
In fact i started watering them a little too much and saw a little white fuzz starting to form on the surface of two out of 3, so i scraped the top 1/4 inch of media off of each, changed feeding so it only soaked up to the bottom half (where i want the roots anyway) and it hasn’t come back. No more adding humidity for me (until necessary …)
I saw and was impressed with your solution for adding rh% - i completely forgot that longjohns existed! it made me want a pair (for mornings like this one 
)
Cool beans, mine worked out fine. BTW, the bulb will eventually get dirty, dusty more like, I just threw my light in the dishwasher to blow all that away. Just the light, mind, not the power supply!!!
-Grouchy
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