Tirah Valley, Pakistan Landrace grow

[Upstate]

@YoBigdaddy

Awesome find, I am so looking forward to watching both of these grows and someday ending up with them in my garden hopefully.

I have Peshawar seeds for you whenever you want them my friend. They will love Missouri! Same ( roughly) latitude.

[Upstate]

@misterbee I would make seed for you even if I had no intention of making seed😁 you can count on it.

[misterbee]

We travelled the Khyber Pass on a monthly basis. We operated openly in both Pakistan and Afghanistan until the Afghanistan Government aligned themselves with the Soviet Union. The U.S. had hundreds of Peace Corp Volunteers there also. The Khyber Pass was part of the ancient Trade Route, one could literally buy ANYTHING!! In an adventurous sort of way, I enjoyed time there. WOW, “Time Travel”, SS/BW…mister

[Upstate]

Beautiful plant! Looks like it filled out quite nicely. Truthfully, that is not a concern for me, whether it fills out or not. That will come in time. What matters most to me is getting my hands on these fantastic genetics. Thanks to you for making that happen. Now that you know there is a large group of people interested in your local Sativas, I can’t wait to see what you find next year😁

[Upstate]

As you know, I love my History. What a historical place you were able to see. I imagine ancient caravans making their way from South Asia towards the Indus and Indian subcontinent, or Alexander the Great taking in the view. So much history there. How wide is the pass? Above the treeline?

@misterbee

The Khyber Pass was part of the ancient Trade Route, one could literally buy ANYTHING!

Were there actually merchants set up in the pass?

[Upstate]

@GregOG

Another great seed giveaway @Upstate ??

In the future, yes. For now I’m growing some headstash and hoping to get the Landrace Warden some business thru exposure.

[misterbee]

It’s basically an “earthen road” that wind through the area separating Afghanistan and Pakistan. It actually goes partially through portions of the “Spin Gar Mountains” (how “Ole Bin Laden” escaped). Most don’t realize there’s a “Valley of Peshawar” (not only a Town with the Name). It connects in a Town called “Jarud”, where there is a Fort by the same name. That’s where ALL the Commerce of the area converge. Chinese, Persians, Ethnic Pashtu (both from Pakistan and Afghanistan), Indians, Nepalese, you name it, all were there selling their merchandise. It was like New York City, without the Neon!!! We used to buy uncut Gemstones, fine Silk Threads, Firearms, Linen Gifts for family members back home. I remember sending my Late Father a Crown Royale Bag, FULL of Tiger Eye Stones. Even in Peshawar, going to our “Communication Compound” from the main part of the Base, a common “Road” separated the two areas. Every day there were merchants gathered attempting to sell the Americans something. I’m positive there were “spies” among the crowd, gauging our activities. You had to stay alert!! Looking back, I think I got a “Rush” out of the entire experience. SS/BW…mister

[GregOG]

You guys are the best for real, this is the REAL house of legacy growers.
It’s been very inspiring being a part of this all.

[GregOG]

Afghanistan genteics are the number one plants to grow in Missouri.
Read it somewhere recently.

[Upstate]

@LandraceWarden

Gives off a very wild smell of rose, pistachio and acrid smells.

Rose terpenes are very rare. I’ve only heard of them one other time. ( sinai and maybe utarakhand)Super cool. You should know that I’ve been after that Pistachio weed for years now, too. Didn’t know those kind of terpenes could be found in this population. The older weed lovers in this country that made their way on the “Hippie Trail” in the 60’s highly regarded Nutty terpenes. I hope I’m lucky enough to find some.
What kind of flavors does the local hash carry?

[Upstate]

The old sativa’s in particular will perform magnificently in your humid climate. I would say Pakistani rather than Afghani should be your choice, with the exception of Nuristan afghan genetics, which is where the HolySmoke Peshawar is from. @LandraceWarden has Nuristan seeds right now. The bud looks so similar to these I’d say that’s the wild version. I left my favorite peshawar plant out( joe) Nearly 5 weeks after it was ripe. Cold temps, rain, frost…it didn’t matter. It never did get any additional mold aside from the little bit i had ( a budlet) while it was still maturing. What impressed me most was that the resin glands held up. Tough genetics. The leaves held up better than Kashmiri, … A shocker for me. Not that Kashmir genetics wouldn’t perform well for you. They’d love Missouri too. I grew kashmir on top of very wet ground during an extremely wet summer. Mold heaven, in fact.( the ground, not the plants)
Did you get on the Peshawar seed list?

[LegsMahoney]

@Upstate

END of November in Vermont??? Was that this year? Has he sampled yet?

Yes to both, haven’t heard anything of him sampling the smoke as of this writing but i was impressed based solely on its ability to withstand that weather we got and not succumb to mold or rot

[drgreensleeves]

I’ll be lurking around like a stalking butler lol don’t mind me

[Trowertripper]

@Upstate
I have the rsc tirah too. I was debating running it next sunmer…

[Upstate]

@Trowertripper This is the time to grow it buddy. Perfect timing to help fill the thread with Tirah pictures😁. Speaking of which, @Barefrog here’s the Tirah thread. Would love for you to document your Tirah plants here.
Here’s the little seedlings today. I buried a couple ( all) stems too deep ( boy they took off!)and one got damp off. As soon as i spotted it, I dug up around the stem. Dug down around the stem until I saw no more brown stem and left it exposed to air. I will support the plant if necessary. I did this yesterday when the plant tipped over when a few water drops landed on it so i caught it early. It might make it as its still going today. I’ve done this numerous times now ( not proud of that lol) and I have success saving the plant more often than not. If I see the stem withering further towards the tip I’ll snip the top off and replant it. I’ve had plants live this way, just slows them down a week as they grow a new root tip. Normally, if i catch it in time, right when the plant tips over, it will live.

I’d say 50/50 with this one…or maybe 51/49 it lives.

I am using dense garden soil mixed with my recycled soil. Going easier on the water for now, letting them dry out well and then water moderately.

[Draig]

@Upstate

The amalgamated version will finish Mid September to mid October AT 33 degrees latitude where seeds were collected. Being 10ﾟ further North you can expect to harvest between 20 and 30 days later than they do in Pakistan. A rough figure for harvest times is 2 to 3 days per degree of latitude North of the collection latitude for those of us North of the equator. Reportedly after around 7 generations it will begin to harvest at your latitude at around the same time it harvested in its old latitude…i.e. mid September to Mid October. I recommend you do like I am planning on doing and force flower by August 1st and continue until September 1st after which you can leave them out.

Thanks Upstate! This is extremely helpful! I assumed it would take a little longer given our Latitude, but not that long so I’m going to definitely follow your recommendations!

Props to @LandraceWarden would really like to run those Tirah too!

[G-paS]

Thank you so much @LandraceWarden for letting @Upstate, an awesome grower, grow these awesome seeds.

[Upstate]

I asked the @LandraceWarden for clarity as to which version I have.
So this IS the amalgamated version, which has both Indica and Sativa phenos. The selected plants fell in the intermediate flowering category at 9-10 weeks. Sounds like the full range of effects.
Speaking of effects… @LandraceWarden Was telling me how powerful the Tirah hash is. He says it has literally driven people crazy permanently. I have never before heard such a thing. Now I want to try it even worse than before​:grinning:.

[drgreensleeves]

That’s a little sick bro ! But I must be sick too because it made me say “Gotts ta B mo kurfull” then reflect internally and be like"Come on wit it!" Pretty sick with it lol

[Cormoran]

I’ve been told eating acid more than three times will make you permanently insane. My invisible friend George agrees, but Bob says he disagrees and he’s beating George up so that must mean he’s right… dunno who to trust!