That makes sense. I have f-d up and lolipopped and stripped plants too soon before flowering, or even on the day I threw them in and they were pissed. I have always attributed the extra leaf and differing texture of my outdoor product as inferior to my indoor because of moonlight and other variables in weather vs the precise control avail. to us indoors. I usually find a few seeds in the outdoor as well.
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How would āI bet youāre one of those breeders that blame every herm on grower errorā not be taken as an insult? Thatās what started the outburst that ended with I have no integrity with no example to prove it and Iām smarter than you and I have more integrity than you.
What even is all that? Yall wonder why not many breeders choose to willingly trudge through such boorish shit.
Again people can interpret shit like that however they want. I certainly donāt consider that normal respectful conversation. You mayā¦
Of course every plant is different. That paper is one example of moonlight regulating genes. Iām not going to do anyoneās homework for them. Let the light shine if you want to ha
One has to wonder why canna will revert to monoecious in a few generations if left to its own devices.
You and I have spoken often enough throughout the last decade or so, youāve found the occasional herm in my gear. I donāt think at any time Iāve blamed you for them. We chuck em and move on and enjoy the gold.
I even tell you when to keep an extra eye. I think youāve even taken blame on occasion and Iāve said itās just numbers and the plants.
Iām certain at no time have I questioned your integrity and I would consider our conversations respectfulā¦ Iāve certainly never claimed to be smarter than you either.
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he didnāt say what you think he said.
and all the other shit he said felt tongue in cheek after yall started throwing stones at his ass.
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Those must smell lovely. Iāll show you the mother later. She snuck in flower disguised as a glue.
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and i have never blamed you for herms either. we know each other. we have rapport with each other. i can say that you came at this manās neck for no good reason. he was defending you.
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I bet youāre one of those breeders who blame all the herms on grower error. Thatās what it originally said lol
Thatās a compliment? Get realā¦
I prefer to debate people who are similar or higher intellectual level and Iām not getting that vibe from you.
Thats super respectful aināt it? Like I said early what even is this shit lol
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Iāll tell you I was unprepared for the sweetness and orange lemon coming off of these. Interesting smells but not a lot of heavy OG funk like the bubble heads and biker bubbles. Corgi said he liked the SG even more than the bubble head and he should know. Lol canāt wait
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ok well then heās a dick. i didnāt see an edit, but i know if you do it within a certain time it wonāt show up.
my apologies.
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No need to apologize. I know what I signed up for posting on an internet board.
Youād be the perfect person to refute his insult that Iām just like every breeder that blames herms on the grower lol. Weāve had intersex conversations for years.
You know them sour dubb lines will throw em occassionaly but you still grow em because of the quality. Besides the fact I repeatedly said chuck the weirdos sort the gold. Idk how I have no integrity.
I blame em on the plant. Monoecious cannabis is the natural state, diocy of cannabis is a tenuous man made construct to suit our needs.
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You totally miss-read that. I meant that as if talking to the readers as a whole, Iike the environment/issues are the cause of intersex. However after reading it again, I can see how it couldāve been interpreted as snarky. Which was not my intent at all. I had an issue with breeders and hermies when I first started. I got the ear of an old grower, and he educated me on my wrong doings. I was merely trying to say that breeders get the blamed for intersex issues, when it likely was grower error. Because thatās exactly what I did, when I was a noob. Wasnāt throwing shade, and as said before, itās all love.
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Yeah my tent is leaky as fuck even to the point where my clone dome with purple CFLs is right next to the inlet fan on a shelf so the light is for sure bleeding in and hitting the ceiling of the tent and ive never had herm issues in that tent. Lights on the heaters, LED displays on the inkbird etc. No problems
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Yeah Iām a dick, but not this time.
I didnāt edit anything. The message was miss-interpreted. And as many times as Iāve tried to get people to understand that, I keep getting attacked. Which is my point. If two people canāt have a simple debate or discussion regarding cannabis, I donāt see any point of moving forward. I interpret that as a lack of intellect itself. Not saying he doesnāt know his stuff about breeding.
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this is it really.
it really isnāt anyoneās fault unless someone is using pistillate males.
Yeah Iām excited for those gDubbs to come in. I might just start them next full Moon. I think Iāll torture test them before making more seed.
whatās your torture list I forgot some of them. I know you fuck with the roots, light schedule, pH swings, and something else or is that it?
Okay well I guess the idea of moving on didnāt exactly catch on with everybody. Look, I have read several years worth of Tony Green documentation on his struggles trying to create a stabilized hybrid and I think transparency is the key to integrity. I guess thatās why Iām defending him is because Iāve spent so much time studying his work. I feel like heās been totally open and transparent about everything including the way he comes up with his calculations. I donāt know anything about you except that you keep talking about being attacked and thatās always a red flag for me. Letās please stay on topic.
I spent 2 years running almost pure land race seeds from Ace in Spain and although some of their lines are highly worked there are still at least. At least. 10% Hermies even in their Panama. Louis who runs the place I would consider a friend. Weāve talked much in the last 2 to 3 years and he is very open and transparent about the work he does stabilizing these difficult plants. I know a thing or two about Hermies and I think we should keep the conversation going but letās not get all over blown about this s***. Over and out.
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It was misinterpreted and blown out of proportion. If you guys are waiting for an apology, itās not coming. As far as I am concerned, I didnāt do anything wrong. Iāve already tried to keep it āmovingā, and be done, but everyone has to keep chiming in. But if people keep on addressing me, I will answer.
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Eats, shoots, and leaves.
Eats, shoots and leaves.
I always have to remind myself that sometimes getting across what you actually mean via messages on a forum can be challenging at times. I know I often forget grammar and my mind goes faster than my ability to type and I skip words at times. Even if all the grammar and itās a very well-written post, its still lacks half the context us humans use to communicate.
I think itās very reasonable for @Purple-N-Hairy to be very on guard about hermies after having to scrap months of work. I would be. Not a mistake you want twice in a row. GG4 has a reputation, removed from Tony, about herms soā¦
@Tonygreen @Recyoself313 I think this largely boiled down to a miscommunication about a sentence that could be read a few different ways. Sometimes its hard to back down when you feel you are being attacked by someoneās post, and Tony has a very good reason to preserve his rep. If it is a case where someone is talking out there ass and attacking you wellā¦
āNever wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.ā
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Word to the word.
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There was no miscommunication he changed his post. His next post after discusses my inferior intellect.
The one after a comment on my low integrity.
Youāre right though. First person Iāve blocked on a forum in many years. Iāve got 4 kids if I want to play games.
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Case in point. I had to be blocked. Canāt have a conversation these days.
The original post was never edited. So Tony miss-read it, and double down that it was edited. Believe what you want. It wasnāt edited, thatās a scapegoat.
I have āhighā hopes for these 4 BubbleHeads I have going into flower. Excited for this journey!
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