So I think I have figured it, it’s a combo of non ideal vpd and high light intensity that had them drooping. I raised lights a bit more and gave them one more hour of rest, and they surely appreciated it
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I have finally separated the autos and the photos.
The whole thing has been a bit overwhelming, I think I have mites but I haven’t seen them although I’m pretty sure I spotted eggs. I’m wiping the foliage with potassic soap and taking a closer look.
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Lollipopping DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT - but I did it anyway.
I noticed humidity spikes at night - I think I’m at week 3 in flower and decided to do it before I regretted with bud rot or something.
Before & after / I did not want to overdo it. (Should I have cut more ??)
Auto room (uneven) and S1 room still vegging (they get transplanted on Thursday and flipped in a week from then)
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offically my first bud shots, don´t laugh… its only week 3 of flower - but i am so cornily proud. I hope they stay healthy and dont hermie from all the stress ive caused them
by the way, IS THERE A PATRON SAINT FOR MARIJUANA GROWERS?? im not a religious man, but i can always start.
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End of week 3.
One of them has shown a deficiency that looks like K def. Im just not sure, it wouldn’t make that much sense.
buds forming.
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Debatable. for example to the followers of Cathol, April 20 is St Marian, but I dont think he had anything to do with bhang… which leads me to Ganesha, the indian elephant god, opener of the way, remover of obstacles, I read some of them dirty hippies consider him to be weeds patron saint, HOWEVER, being a god excludes being a saint, no?
which leaves the inhabitants of daar-al-islam to consider. now, they had the sufis and they had the hashishim but did you know about Khizr? yup, the sufis liked him a lot.
I’d say Khizr or Khidr is the most fitting.
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Quality stuff! thanks!!
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my pleasure! yep, al-Khadr kinda reads like Elija (chariots wheels etc) or elijah analoge…islamic mythos is mostly fun. I dont mind the sufis, Rumi had some wise thoughts but nothing the stoics weren’t jabbering about 1000yrs earlier. Omar Khayyam’s poetry is beautiful and that fucker loved his wine… anyway, what do I know.
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Along for the ride. Man I need to read more journals.
Looking forward to seeing this in action.
If you’re going to hit her with epsom are you adding it to your feed or foliar spray?
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its a tough one, i see a lot of people advise against spraying anything on flower, but at the same time I feel I need a quick response. not sure if to spray carefully away from the buds, or just top dress and wait.
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I did a light foliar on one with epsom salts, see how it goes from there.
some baby bud (start of week 4 I believe) shots in the meanwhile.
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For lack of a better word, Saint Cannabis! Not sure it exists, yet nothing tells us we can’t! Beautiful plants!! Congrats! 
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A little followup from yesterday. (ill post decent photos on the next weekend)
I should have put my gg4s to flower two weeks ago, but havent been able to clone them. hopefully ill be able to do that this week. They are big.
and according to my estimations, these are due or harvest in about 20 days. Although im thinking one might be even sooner than that. wanna guess?
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Every thing is looking good mate, you should be proud.
To answer your question about lollipopping, it’s a good way to get rid of larf that doesn’t get enough light, this also allows all the plants energy to focus on the top colas without wasting it on the under growth. And since I know you are in a humid region it also helps with air flow, powdery mildew normally starts in the areas that are lacking circulation ie: the bottom of the plants.
Grap yourself a $10 jewellers loupe online to scope the back side of your leaves to see if you have any pests. Most are really hard or impossible to see with the naked eye. The loupe is also great for checking trichome progression and getting your harvest time right.
Also when you flip to flower you can take cuttings the first week without any issues of pre-flowers on your clones.
Not sure who that is but maybe he should stick to making rice haha
Looking forward to seeing your finished product, I think you have some fyah brewing 
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I have a small 30x and 60x i think - ill take a look. i hope i dont - i thought i had them early in flower but was never able to find any, just leaf damage. fortunately leaf damage stopped, so i stopped looking.
also about lollipopping. i should have gone all in with it, now i understand why ppl do it so thoroughly, i didnt do it completely and i have a bunch of larf growing in the bottom. Ill def completely lollipop the GG4s when i flip them. also cus the humidity!
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That should work fine, try to keep a routine of checking regularly… staying on top of your IPM will save you a lot of work if you ever have issues, which we all do at some stage.
You can use the stuff you remove as your round of clones. Just remember the plant needs a good amount of fan leaves to drain and then die off during the flower process so don’t leave them too naked, those leaves are there for a reason and store alot of nutrients.
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Plants are looking great mate
Nice man, are you putting lids on those bottles? The first few days especially it’s important to have a humid dome affect, once a day is good to let in some fresh air but I recommend leaving it fully closed up… the base aswell.
Ok well then fuck Uncle Ben and his racist ass.
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