@anon32470837 and @Scissor-Hanz thank you for that advice. I’ve been working using non-toxic solutions. Pest strips was one I thought of, but felt I could get better coverage using more yellow cards. I would have eventually added them to my grows if I hadn’t gotten the flyin’ fuckers undder contorl (and apparently, now, gone! 
). It never would have occurred to me that pests strips emanate toxins (I think I thought of them as fly paper on steroids). That being the case, I won’t use them anywhere. Ever.
@deep_rob
They definitely were! I had:
- Kali Mist (never grew out
)
- Neville’s haze (my kid and his friend’s liked that one, I didn’t feel any effect)
- Blue Widow (a favorite)
- White widow (also a fav)
- Thunder 47 (I called it Russian Thunder, I thought is sounded better. Excellent buzz, very short, bushy plant)
- California Orange (Liked it better than the Neville’s Haze)
They always at least $100 less than online seed houses, often much more. If always amused me that Heaven’s Stairway was the shipper of these bargain seeds.
I had even crossed a White Widow male with a Blue Widow I called it Baby Blue Widow (BBW or Fat Chick for short). It was my absolute favorite of the strains I had. I kept this one alive the longest. I’d not made any seeds for this one in 8 years when I lost it to what I now was insect attacks in winter 2012/2013. I tried every trick I could find to germ at least one seed. Sadly, they all went to seed heaven.
Bought weed and grew out seeds from the bags. Most of it was crap weed. One day my kid gave me a seed from a bag of weed his friend had. (He brought his weed to our house, filled a bowl, popped out a seed…) I grew that one out. It was quite good. It is the one I call Blonde, for lack of an official name). March 2015, my son’s girlfriend (now fiance), went to Milwaukee to visit her brother and came back with a bag of very purple weed. It had 4 seeds. One seed failed, the remaining three sprouted and are what I call Purple. Once a year I make sure to get seeds. I have to make a herm to do it as both strains are feminized.
My BBW was an accident. I had grown the male White Widow in the kitchen window until it burst. I had a 2 White Widows and a Blue Widow under the hps. I brushed pollen on a side bud on each White Widow, expecting a small bud full of seeds on each plant. Apparently when I turned the fan back on a few minutes later, pollen blew around. Each White Widow was covered in seed over about 25% and the Blue Widow made about a tablespoon of seeds too. I ended up liking the BBW so well and had so many seeds, I didn’t worry when the White Widow died out. I had let the Blue Widow go away a year earlier. Fast forward about a year and a half. I’m tired of smoking just my Fat Chick and put some Blue Widow seeds into germ. I only had a half dozen of the original Blue Widow seed purchase and none popped. They were 10 year old seeds, so I wasn’t much surprised. It was why I did them first. I was surprised by the White Widow seeds not sprouting, they were only 6-7 years old.
Looking back, I probably should have pre-cracked the White Widow seeds, I’d been growinf solong from clones, I forgot the tricks I learned here about seeds. Also, at the time, I didn’t think my seeds were old enough to worry about.
That’s my sad story about what happened to my CBay strains. Man I wish CBay was still around. I’m not paying more than $50 for seeds.
