The regs use a pretty stellar boy from Stoney of Stone Farms. Once he saw how nice the initial crosses were he hit a lot more with him. Then once they sold well and Stoney passed more were made/released
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Go for it! My understanding is that there is a lot of genetic variability between different versions of a given āstrainā. Would be interesting to see if or how close SD seeds from different sources are related. The nomenclature for cannabis cultivars seems confusing and arbitrary. What for instance defines a Sour Diesel? Its only defined by its taste and smell and Iām pretty sure that plants that taste and smell very similar can have a very different parentage. They might taste and smell the same but can have a very different genetic and chemical make up. From a medical perspective it would make much more sens when the name of a cultivar relates to the effect and not taste or smell.
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Thatās a bit incorrect.
A true sour diesel seed line comes from a clone only sour diesel plant. Not just any random plant.
The issue is anybody can call their seeds sour diesel. That doesnāt mean it really is.
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@leetdood Is this perspective widely shared? I think Ron Herrington, a canadian Breeder, said he has seed lines that have a high uniformity and are able to reproduce them self. They grow like a Landrace on his property (he claims).
The lineage of SD seems to be pretty vague and it remains unclear who the original Breeder was and what the āingredientsā where. Your claim seems to be that somebody in the 90ās bred the SD-Motherplant and only seedlines closely related to that original Mother can call them self SD. Iām not saying your definition of a ātrueā seedline is wrong but for the homegrower itās almost impossible to know what he is buying.
@Acro If you have exceptional genetics it makes sens to cross it with a wide variety of other cultivars to see what happens and to keep this genetics in the gene pool. In a hundred years from know somebody will be very happy they made those 46 SD crosses.
that doesnāt really change anything. also, i didnāt say the 90s.
it doesnāt matter what the āingredientsā are if you can get the clone itself or your preferred seedline based on the clone.
the average homegrower may be unknowing or tricked, but it does not change the fact that sour diesel is a clone only strain preserved by breeders.
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Anybody who is interested can do a few months to years of research on their preferred cultivar and how it has been preserved, if it has, in seed form. Quality cultivars take time to acquire sometimes.
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Sounds like a 700 page novel called āThe Plant Detectiveā, Iām hesitant to climb down that rabbit hole but Iām interested. If you think about it, it took centuries of cannabis cultivation til somebody held that one quality cut in his hand, mindblowing. Iām no biologist but I guess the answer to many questions regarding the origin and evolution of the plant will be found via genome analysis.
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Iāll second what @leetdood said. Sour d is a clone only. Many people have worked with it and some just slapped the name on their seeds.
It is also a massive rabbit hole you can fall into. At the end of the day almost impossible to truly confirm anything. The story started in the days of black market, so little tangible proof.
Sour wonāt finish for me at 43 latitude. I want to try to finish it in a hoop house this year.
Outdoor is a whole different animal for cultivation than indoor.
Iād look at c99 or some similar fast sativa for outdoor
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Cloney has the most knowledge of it Iāve seen out of anybody other than tehfrozen
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@Emeraldgreen Good Luck with the hoop house. I totally forgot that I ordered a Diesel Haze Auto from Sensi Seeds 10 days ago. Iām at 50Ā° North, I guess if I let a 80 day Auto stand for 95 or 100 days it might be close to finish.
I have Dream Queen a fast sativa from HSC going (grew it last year, effect was good but not as relaxing as the Diesel Cross Iām smoking now). Green Poison an Indica dominant hybrid from Sweet Seeds is in my tent and Texada Timewarp and EEP an Erdbeerli Cross from Helvetic Seeds. They will all go outside in two weeks time maybe.
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Sounds like a plan. Seed plants can go out earlier than clones. Iād clone any photo or fast photo plant you have. If itās something you like that does well in your environment then you will have it for next year.
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Cloney, tehfrozen are those usernames? Because I canāt find them with the search function.
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CloneySoprano is a clone vendor. I donāt believe heās on here. He does have a discord channel
Not familiar with the other name, suspect itās instagram related
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Discord and old overgrow related. Really I should keep my mouth shut haha
Cloney soprano has a website also,
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Before genome analysis, you can look at podcasts, breeders, forum documentation. A good example would be Nspecta of CSI Humboldt who has been digging into the makeup of heirloom cuts via self pollination and hybridization. A lot of research and listening and verification goes a long way. Itās how I got stuff like chem D
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He will appreciate the support
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