White spots on my leaves, no bugs, not PM 🤷

[JohnnyPotseed]

don’t be so sensitive! The damage is exactly the same as caused by Thrips. A lot of folks have told you this. If you can’t find them, that doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
Have a nice day, I’m outta here

[luxton]

Yes, it is, and I’m only trying to learn here, not sure why questions are being met with such responses.

[luxton]

Dude, I’m not arguing that they’re there, I’m trying to figure out what “a lot of folks” are seeing, other than white spots, that I’m missing 🤷. I’m not sure why it’s difficult to answer.

Have a read over all of the comments again. I don’t think I’m being sensitive, I’ve asked half a dozen times what people are seeing, and I’m getting the same responses of “it’s thirps” without an answer as to what people are actually seeing…?

[DirtySlowToes]

The white/pale spots on the top side of the leaf. It’ll have almost a sheen to it when the light hits. That’s thrip damage. They almost look like little stretch marks. They’re in your pics up there. Not the outer leaf damage. The white spots within the leaf.

Thrip damage circled

[Onobigrower]

I have no problem drawing you where they are. Sometimes the eyes are not interested in telling us what is in front of them.

[JohnnyPotseed]

@luxton

what people are actually seeing…?

WHITE SPOTS, which you obviously see also, since you posted the pics and question… The type of spots that are almost assuredly caused by Thrips. Everyone has answered your question, my friend. There are pics of the critter posted all over the internet, also pics of the damage they cause. It isn’t too late to get rid of em, the damage is obviously just getting started. But do as you will. Sorry if this comes off as anything other than an attempt at being helpful to a fellow cannabis lover.

[luxton]

Thank you for this, this really helped find them, and I have confirmed the lil f’ers are there

[JohnnyPotseed]

The pic with Thrips circled above my post is your ‘proof’ they ARE there!

[luxton]

Ahh brilliant, thank you!!! It definitely helps knowing what you’re looking for!!

[JohnnyPotseed]

https://overgrow.com/t/mites-thrips-aphids-one-n-done-with-pics/

[luxton]

Thank you. White spots Xan also be a calcium, magnesium or manganese deficiency, and that’s just scratching the surface. So, white spots alone can’t be the tell-all for thirps, which is why I was asking for more details

[CocoaCoir]

[NoCal]

Not sure why you’re getting such a hard time asking for more info….

You’ll learn to spot their little silver trails they leave behind like your first picture. Often there are little black dots throughout the damaged area, it’s poop. Then you start to spot the larva looking like mini rice gains.

Always easier to find on traps. Fwiw I always catch more of the larva on yellow traps vs blue.

Good luck dude

[JohnnyPotseed]

While ‘white spots’ can be indication of a number of problems. the shape, tells a lot.
For instance, this is damage from 4-lined plant bugs

this is damage from leaf miner

this is spider mites

this is thrip

Calcium, Magnesium, or Manganese do not cause white spots like these

[luxton]

@NoCal

Not sure why you’re getting such a hard time asking for more info….

That makes 3 of us.

Thank you so much for that detail, that absolutely helps, both now and in my future grows. I really appreciate your input.

[JohnnyPotseed]

I’m sorry if you feel like I’m one that’s giving you any ‘hard time’. I was trying be helpful

[Marz]

Last week just spotted white spider mites lurking around. They’re huge. Albine tarantula mites. Orange spider mites are common, we live in peace. Brown mites, spring tails, some aphids. That’s why I grow in living soil. Bugs eat bugs, this is my IPM. No problem .

Have a lucky week all of you.

[Oldjoints]

@luxton
Most very experienced growers can tell what thrip damage looks like by the spots themselves.
You asked and were given the answer many times.
Yet you wanted others to “prove it”.
You stated right from the beginning that it wasn’t bugs, you stated that you looked and found no bugs.
I am sure it seemed to others that you just didn’t want to accept what experienced growers were telling you.
You have to remember we can only go by information we receive and it is hard with limited information and extremely hard over the internet.

There are two sides to every coin and yet one side cannot see the other.

Everyone had your best interest at heart regardless of the outcome.

[luxton]

@luxton

I know trips are small, but I don’t see any evidence of the lil buggers…? What am I missing?

@luxton

Thrip traps have been ordered and will be here Wednesday. I’m crossing my fingers, typically bugs and aquaponics don’t mix, the bugs usually need dirt to come in on

@luxton

unless anyone else has any thoughts? Where would I find any evidence of them directly? Don’t they usually love and lay eggs on the underside of the leaf, like mites?

@luxton

What am I looking for exactly??

@luxton

Hmm, I’ve been looking on all the leaves, but I don’t see any bugs, anywhere, on any of them. The white spots on the leaves, while I agree do look like thrip damage, don’t have any necrosis around the edges of the white spots.

Confusing and frustrating, lil buggers

@luxton

I have yet to see any bugs in my tent at all

@luxton

just tell me what you need go see more clearly and I’ll go get a bunch more pics

I dunno, I guess I thought I asked for help in what to look for and wasn’t getting a response. I never challenged anyone or asked anyone to prove anything, I simply wantef to know what else, besides the white circles, I was missing that others were seeing.

Maybe you could suggest a different way from the multiple ways I asked, what I should be looking for besides white spots?

[luxton]

I appreciate everyone’s help.