Who are the best or most consistent breeders?

How can I tell which strains are IBLs? I searched a few seed stores and searching for IBL yielded next to nothing.

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That just depends on what kind of a thing you are looking for. So many choices now a days. I think I saw you were only doing a couple of plants at a time so you may want to run some fems.

One of the best in the game IMO at that route is my long time friend @inkognyto Not sure what he’s got going on but a PM to him could be helpful. He may have even made something with the pre 98 Bubba as I sent him the original years ago.

If you want unique Bodhi’s got it going on, as well as Mikey from Exotic seeds. All of these guys have been in my circle for years. I’ve always been the quite type [in public settings]

I certainly don’t want to make anyone mad for not mentioning their name.

Next to nothing is about right. Pretty lucky finding F2’s and 3’s on most of the seed vendor sites last I looked.

Anything at F5 and beyond is technically an IBL although I have seen very recently people claiming to have certain things at F6 and F7 that I have grown and honestly I have to say they are full of it. I have some F2’s that breed more true.

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Thanks so much for all your help! It’s truly appreciated. I understand you being cautious about mentioning other breeders, I’m certainly not looking to cause a rift between anyone. I think I’ll get a pack of your Strawberry Creme and check them out.

P.S. Would strains like DJ Shorts’ Blueberry and Bros. Grimm Cinderella 99 be stable, or not necessarily?

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Led_Seedz won’t brag, but his stuff always looks very uniform, and you can trust his genetic pedigrees. It’s pretty obvious he has a lot of integrity when it comes to breeding cannabis. Search some of his test-crops here on OG if you haven’t been following his work.

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Welcome back to the wonderful world of the cannabis seed market, 2018. It’s a wild west style green rush, and snake-oil salesmen abound.

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I would consider C99 and Blueberry stable but I’m no breeder.

You seem interested in Bros. Grimm. From my experience you can find a keeper from a pack of C99. Personally if it was me I’d go for the cheaper Apollo 11 or Apollo 11 haze. Again you find a keeper with little effort.

If you really want C99 get it from FDM and grab a pack of his new Sweet tooth #4 for less than you’ll pay for Bros. Grimm C99. The Sweet tooth provides 2 desirable phenos to choose from.
Fleur du Mal Seeds

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I hold a cut of Blueberry that is 20 this year. I also hold a cut of C99 that I think is either 16 or 17 this year. I haven’t run either of their lines in years and years so can’t really speak on either.

I can tell you that the Blueberry I hold wears a chastity belt. I have bred her to 5 different stable males and in Every case the offspring show inter sexing traits. All trashed and never released.

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I have been interested to try C99 since I used to grow back in the early 00s. I am wiling to pay for a quality strain if it’s consistent and true to it’s description.

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Just browsing through some posts again and happened to notice the above comment and it made me laugh. Fermented mango vomit? And you say it was incredibly tasty? :joy:

Just reminds of a night many years ago when my wife (who rarely drinks) overindulged in some fruity wine cooler drink and vomited all over inside the car. It was definitely a fruity vomit bouquet but the word “tasty” never came to mind. :laughing:

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I get what you’re saying and finding a keeper in 2-3 plants may be as good as can be reasonably expected, but I don’t currently have the space or means to keep mothers. So finding a keeper does not enable me to repeat the pheno. And if I am only growing 1-2 plants (especially if they are not feminized seeds) at a time it could take me a relatively long time to find what I am looking for. And when I do, how many grows before I can get similar results again?

I guess what would be most to my liking would be clones. Sample some bud and if it’s good and tasty, get a clone. Should be exactly the same, right? The problem is that nothing is legal in my state so I can’t get clones. Seeds are my only option and most are fairly variable in the results.

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As for the quality of FDM’s C99, we certainly have a handful of folks around here who have given it a shot with excellent results – @ryasco comes to mind, the pics are not for the weak of heart.

As for Brothers Grimm, there’s a thread showing off their gear and some discussion of their current beans. I grew their current Apollo 11 with great success and love the smoke, and tried to grow Apollo 13 and failed miserably, but that’s probably on me :slight_smile:

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Lots of interesting things about breeders here. Very cool to hear breeders give each other props. I can remember back in the day when there was only a handful of breeders and not that many more strains to choose from.

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Have you looked at Ace feminized strains?

https://www.aceseeds.org/en/strains/feminized/zamaldelicakalichinafem.html

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Here are two brothers Grimm Cinderella XX @ week 6 it’s their fem c-99. So far I’m liking what I’m seeing

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well it was heavy on the mango and less so on the vomit… thats what i smelled… others agreed, others said rotten mangoes… either way everyone loved it.

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Disclaimer : I’ve not read the replies, i’m in rush for month and og miss me as hell ^^ So thx for the title.

This reccurent question is really borned ten years ago, we can debate on the source of this leitmotiv but in anyways, i take it like a very positive evolution of the community at the end. On my discover period, no newcomer talked about that and maybe this aspect have a part of responsability in the actual situation (quality comparison, potency only). I still very convinced than the human is the best tool to judge the quality of a high of a plant, instead the industrial THC/THCV/CBD analysis.

It’s for the context, now the short opinion on the title : I can hate or love the collection of someone, but i always consider breeders with at east ten years of real activity. And i count each decade as a form of military grade in a way. No matter what, if they survive the business there is someone somewhere than love it.

Modus the inherent factor of Ganja World : for a lot, the best strain released are in the start of theyr activity. How many amazing weed released in seeds before the breeder disapear too. Auctions are more atomized (dispatched ?) today and btw less present in our “instant culture”.Less fun than years ago, imho.

thx for the ride during the cone, i return to my hell

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I would like only to mention 3 of them: Dj Short, Mario Bellardi from Original Delicatessen, n’ Kaiki aka C. Garcia from CannaBioGen n’ (not right now) A.C.E.

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i dont have experience personally growing many breeders but based off what ive seen from others, bodhi probably has the biggest cult following on the forums i use. BOG and FDM both seem popular as well but havent seen many grow logs for them. LED seedz is very thorough and transparent with his work, i like how he includes filial generation.

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I wanna say karma but there’s a lot of chucking being done there lately. I’ve gotta throw Serious seeds name in there if I haven’t already. The ak47 I bought recently is already throwing off that peppered, skunk, funk I remember from the late 90s
And they’re just little vegelings yet.
Sannies killing fields is consistantly stable plant to plant, herbal, fruity and really uplifting. I’ll definitely be trying his other strains.

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thats good to hear i have a few sannies… killing fields is one and i think jackberry and sugar punch. for oldschool strains i’ve always wanted to grow ak47 and also black domina so i think i’ll get those eventually

the best 2 strains i ever smoked as a young’n were blue rhino (this one actually looked blue and stunk like skunk) and kahuna berry. haven’t been able to find any info. i did find a blue rhino but i don’t think it’s the same one.

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