Well, unlike thirty years ago, it is truly impossible to grow all of the strains offered by all of the rapidly multiplying âbreedersâ peddling their wares nowadays.
I have been disappointed frequently over the past ten or so years, in trying some highly touted genetic concoctions.
So, recently I have been intrigued by the consistently unique and robust offerings of Mandala SeedsâŠI have been binge growing their strains for a couple of years now!
I canât say whether Mandala is anywhere near the âbestâ, but I have yet to be disappointed by any of their flowers.
Consistent, IMO.
And of course, keep in mind, that I can only speak of my entirely subjective preferences.
I am going to give FDM and @LED_Seedz a whirl once I return to my main garden.
You know as a small grower itâs a bit depressing how much you read about all the different strains and their characteristics and then you read about so many phenos and many being totally different than how they were described. As a small, personal, seed grower I donât really want to have to go through a 10 pack of seeds (growing 1 or 2 at a time max) to find the pheno that has that nice fruity aroma or purple hues. If you even get one that does.
Stick to IBLâs from well known breeders, stick away from the pollen chuckerâs and youâll be fine.
Line breeding has become a lost art, but there are those that care more about their lines than they do about the cash being made for their years of work that goes in to making plants consistent.
There are still exceptions to what seems the norm now a days with the kids.
Thatâs why I started this thread. Trying to find out who the reputable breeders are. I know youâre in the game and maybe youâd rather not say, but who do you recommend.?
The ones that everyone has recommended are all legit. When you see breeders that are publicly testing their seeds, Cough LED_Seedz , Sin City Seeds Cough that is always a good sign, and a good way of seeing what phenos people are getting before hand.
Bodhi Seeds- One of my favorite breeders, based on his ethics. Just know he has a lot of creations, and some are amazing synergistic strains, and others not so much. But at the price point and how amazing they tend to be, always a good purchase.
OG Raskal Genetics- FIRE FIRE FIRE
Top Dawg- Works their lines, creators and innovators of some phenomenal strains
@BogSeeds- They are constantly improving their lines, and have been a huge part of the community for many years!
That just depends on what kind of a thing you are looking for. So many choices now a days. I think I saw you were only doing a couple of plants at a time so you may want to run some fems.
One of the best in the game IMO at that route is my long time friend @inkognyto Not sure what heâs got going on but a PM to him could be helpful. He may have even made something with the pre 98 Bubba as I sent him the original years ago.
If you want unique Bodhiâs got it going on, as well as Mikey from Exotic seeds. All of these guys have been in my circle for years. Iâve always been the quite type [in public settings]
I certainly donât want to make anyone mad for not mentioning their name.
Next to nothing is about right. Pretty lucky finding F2âs and 3âs on most of the seed vendor sites last I looked.
Anything at F5 and beyond is technically an IBL although I have seen very recently people claiming to have certain things at F6 and F7 that I have grown and honestly I have to say they are full of it. I have some F2âs that breed more true.
Thanks so much for all your help! Itâs truly appreciated. I understand you being cautious about mentioning other breeders, Iâm certainly not looking to cause a rift between anyone. I think Iâll get a pack of your Strawberry Creme and check them out.
P.S. Would strains like DJ Shortsâ Blueberry and Bros. Grimm Cinderella 99 be stable, or not necessarily?
Led_Seedz wonât brag, but his stuff always looks very uniform, and you can trust his genetic pedigrees. Itâs pretty obvious he has a lot of integrity when it comes to breeding cannabis. Search some of his test-crops here on OG if you havenât been following his work.
I would consider C99 and Blueberry stable but Iâm no breeder.
You seem interested in Bros. Grimm. From my experience you can find a keeper from a pack of C99. Personally if it was me Iâd go for the cheaper Apollo 11 or Apollo 11 haze. Again you find a keeper with little effort.
If you really want C99 get it from FDM and grab a pack of his new Sweet tooth #4 for less than youâll pay for Bros. Grimm C99. The Sweet tooth provides 2 desirable phenos to choose from. Fleur du Mal Seeds - #163 by Muleskinner
I hold a cut of Blueberry that is 20 this year. I also hold a cut of C99 that I think is either 16 or 17 this year. I havenât run either of their lines in years and years so canât really speak on either.
I can tell you that the Blueberry I hold wears a chastity belt. I have bred her to 5 different stable males and in Every case the offspring show inter sexing traits. All trashed and never released.
I have been interested to try C99 since I used to grow back in the early 00s. I am wiling to pay for a quality strain if itâs consistent and true to itâs description.
Just browsing through some posts again and happened to notice the above comment and it made me laugh. Fermented mango vomit? And you say it was incredibly tasty?
Just reminds of a night many years ago when my wife (who rarely drinks) overindulged in some fruity wine cooler drink and vomited all over inside the car. It was definitely a fruity vomit bouquet but the word âtastyâ never came to mind.
I get what youâre saying and finding a keeper in 2-3 plants may be as good as can be reasonably expected, but I donât currently have the space or means to keep mothers. So finding a keeper does not enable me to repeat the pheno. And if I am only growing 1-2 plants (especially if they are not feminized seeds) at a time it could take me a relatively long time to find what I am looking for. And when I do, how many grows before I can get similar results again?
I guess what would be most to my liking would be clones. Sample some bud and if itâs good and tasty, get a clone. Should be exactly the same, right? The problem is that nothing is legal in my state so I canât get clones. Seeds are my only option and most are fairly variable in the results.
As for the quality of FDMâs C99, we certainly have a handful of folks around here who have given it a shot with excellent results â @ryasco comes to mind, the pics are not for the weak of heart.
As for Brothers Grimm, thereâs a thread showing off their gear and some discussion of their current beans. I grew their current Apollo 11 with great success and love the smoke, and tried to grow Apollo 13 and failed miserably, but thatâs probably on me
Lots of interesting things about breeders here. Very cool to hear breeders give each other props. I can remember back in the day when there was only a handful of breeders and not that many more strains to choose from.