I’m a chef/ manager of a private club. I love the hospitality field. I really believe it’s what I’m meant to do. However managing a staff these days is proving to be impossible. Does any one who manages people for a living have a good staff? Everyone I’ve talked to in my field can’t keep up with the revolving door of shit bag employees. Is it the same acrossed the board?
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mostly, yes…
It’s hard to get a crew of people that like doing what they do and come to work.
You’ll go through the occasional lull of monthly employees but eventually someone will just pop into place
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It’s the same here.
If you can even find any
Pretty much… I wasn’t allowed to do the hiring, the owners daughter kept hiring her drinking buddies-- who NEVER worked in a kitchen!
Went through 4 of them before I told him if he had her hire one more drunk bimbo who sits, drinks soda and texts while I bust my ass- Ill quit in the middle of Lunch…
So- instead, he made it policy that anyone that worked in the store part of the establishment had to help in the Kitchen.
It was better- but they were pissed, it caused al kinds of hassles, and I eventually quit.
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Managed a large distribution center, averaged 125 employees over two shifts.
People ask what I do… I’m a babysitter for grown ass men.
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I’ve noticed the same trend with employers. Poor pay and verbal abuse don’t make for good work environments. Then again I’m just some guy, what do I know.
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Retired now but I put in my time 40 plus years in sales management hi end furniture your team is everything
Miss the fast pace but it would kill me today 
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I have been managing for years, and currently run two separate departments roughly 30 employees on each team. One team the employees all show up, put in effort and participate and contribute, I have pretty much no turnover, just adding 3 more people. The other team I just can’t keep anyone or find people that show up, dont screw around or dont quit/get fired within a couple weeks. Interviews are fantastic then they show up for work and we’re like who the fuck are you🤔
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There are some flaky people out there, but not all of them… People who are well paid in a good work environment with managers who treat them fairly don’t tend to jump ship often. So something has to be off.
I mostly jump for more money, since the reward for loyalty and doing good work is usually just more work and a less than inflation raise.
Last jump was to get away from a new manager putting in about 5% management effort, breaking stuff, lying and overworking the team to make himself look good. Got a 20% bump and no more evening or weekend work.
Have jumped to get out of having to do night shifts after we’d been fine for years just working 9-5 with oncall every few weeks. With 1 person on shift for 12 hours instead of 3 on call the overnight support got much worse and most of the skilled, experienced people left. But some MBA type got a gold star for implementing 24/7 coverage, wow great job!
Thinking about jumping again now, was told I’d be fully remote so I moved further from work, but now they’re forcing us back to the office a few days per week. Probably would get another nice raise out of it too.
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I am not, but being retired, observent and have time to talk to mangers. Just being a consumer, I can see the revolving door of employees. If they don’t feel like working they just walk off the job or just stop showing up. Very sad.
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I you ever raise your voice to me or touch me again you will regret it.
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The baby boomers as a whole (meaning not all of them, but a large portion) raised a bunch of brats by finding it easier to do for the kids instead of teaching them to do for themselves as our parents did us… they were allowed to sit in front of video games instead of kicking them outside to explore the world, scrape their knees, and ride bikes without helmets (while we made sketchy ramps to jump with them). I believe they sought to spare their kids pain by teaching them to avoid risk. Through video games kids learned that risky behavior may result in your avatar dying, then you reboot and start over.
It doesn’t help when the government seeks to make the population dependent on the government through welfare, college loans (if you whine hard enough maybe it will be forgiven, Medicare, and social security etc. Don’t get me wrong I will gladly help a person with a hand up, but I am reluctant to give hand outs (like anything there are exceptions).
Its a natural law (water, electricity, wildlife and people) will take the path of least resistance. When hard work, pride, and perseverance become that path, we will experience fewer folks with mental health issues, obesity (especially in childhood), etc.
I always hear people YELLING about their rights, but never even whispering about their responsibilities.
I too am guilty of some of the mistakes listed above, but I like to believe I learn from mistakes (eventually), some I just keep repeating.
Let dismount my high horse by saying I believe the answers lie in teaching by example not by preaching, berating or bullying. Unfortunately I appear to woefully out numbered.
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In fairness my comment was about one guy in particular who was just a piece of work. You should hear how he talks to his mother.
But, the world is different. Millennials get a very bad rap but it’s hard not to see their point.
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I’m almost 50. My father told me about 30 years ago that my generation would be the beginning of the children not surpassing the parents financially.
Hard to get motivated to do anything when you aren’t able to pay your bills.
Real wages have been flat for 40 years!
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I’ve got 9-direct reports and about 60-indirect. Of my core team we’ve had no turnover outside of Covid furloughs back in 2020 where we lost a few folks. The core are very much a supportive group with no-drama or drama-types. Their work is focused, self-driven, and they uniformly take an “ownership” approach. They tend to present solutions when escalating issues to the next level of management vs. seeking guidance with no previous consideration or effort. They have great benefits, a great boss (me) are well compensated and much is expected.
The 60 is a rotating mix of contractors, part-timers, and some fte’s. The compensation and work there are not in the same range. The population tends to be a mix of ambition and ambivalence with regular turnover, but also some great folks who move on and up, determined by their own efforts.
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Ah yes, the ol “it’s all the millennials fault!”
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Seriously Paul Harvey.
This! So much this right here!
I happened to find a job with one of the best companies in the US - literally on Fortune’s annual list. The pay is fine, but it’s the benefits, relaxed work environment, and corporate recognition that a work/life balance is critical to employee mental health. They are so generous when the company has a good business quarter and have been known to drop a couple grand into everyone’s 401k. They have a local grocery store stock our break rooms with real food (fruit, milk/cereal, yogurt, hard boiled eggs, etc) as well as junky snacks that is all free. No official dress code - the guideline is “dress like you’re going to Target”: I’m currently sporting shorts, a tie dye T-shirt, and sandals. When gas prices jumped they gave everyone a $250 gas card, PLUS a $50 gas card to give away as you like in order to benefit the community. That’s pretty fucking cool! Some buildings have slides between floors, others have a gym or a putting green. Oh - everyone gets a free gym membership too, not that I’ve been any time recently… They even put on a concert series for employees with free beer!!!
They want people to be happy and successful in their personal lives and believe that will make them better employees. It works! They’ve earned my respect and I don’t ever plan to leave this company. It helps that the work we do enhances people’s lives while making a profit.
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No it’s the boomers who failed those who came after
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