I’m taking clones from them around 4/5th week, it makes them easier to manage long term.
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ya, i take mine at defol around f21 most of the time. it holds them off for a bit.
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Wooooo! Looking forward to seeing this @PsillyRabbit 
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@tamimes so what is the turnaround time for each round on 12/12 straight from seed?
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Liber city sat dom…13/18 -72%
Liberty city fatbud…14/16 -87%
DOG EC red…----…16/18 -88%
DOG EC sat dom.-…9/12 -75%
harlem shuffle PP
small seed…-------…28/30 -93%
big seed…----------…8/14 --57%
88/108…------------…81.5% germ rate
not terrible but i was expecting a higher viablity rate. When choosing the “penny pincher” seeds i pulled out a dozen of the largest seeds i could find. Since sativas are generaly k own for small seeds i wanted to see if the plants looked differnt.
As you can se above the small seeds had a 93% germ rate and the large had a 57%. i dont know what that means but… that happened.
Im really disappointed in myself for the amount of stretch these things have. I cant believe how much they are preferring the White LEd over the 250 watt HPS. I couldn’t lower the light enough and still get the 4x4 coverage. I should have put in something with a stronger blue spectrum to keep them squat but just didn’t get to it. Now these lil fuckers need stakes. Noob mistake but it’ll be alright.
I have em on 20 hours of light still but will probably go to 12/12 tomorrow or the next day.
oh yeah my camera has a crack in it so all the pics of a slight solar flare effect to them: rollseyes:
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@PsillyRabbit , next time you could fill up pots half full of medium , start seeds in that and top up soil after , roots will be nice at bottom of pot perfect for bottom feeding , the rest of pot will fill with roots upwards as she grows / flowers and flood level rises with demand
: )
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@PsillyRabbit 81% overall is not a bad germ rate! I’d be fine with that. As other have said, you lower that light and add some soil to your pots you will be laughing 
Impressive setup and results @tamimes I would love it if you could start a grow thread so I can follow along 
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They are now under 400 watt instead of 250 also 18 hours instead of 20. A few more popped and i’m up to 84% germ rate… I was expecting 90≥
Tomorrow will be 7 days since the seeds imbibed. I will switch to 12/12.
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I might not have minded much the first time but you have now drowned my post in your posts.
I will catch you guys sometime in the future with an update.
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Sorry man wont post any more:+1:
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Was not my intention
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why do you put cups over some of the seedlings? I’m still pretty new to growing, always eager to learn more from yall
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That’s gonna be a jungle. Nice! 
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You’re fine you shared your passion for a similar way of growing. If he wants to be that way so be it.
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@ tammies I was just butt hurt. In almost 20 years of growing mj had never stretched a seedling so bad .To boot, in this case there were 108 of them…
Can we still be friends?
Here we are at 12 days of flower. I cant wait to kill half these plants and create a checker pattern.
running at something like 750 wats mixed LED and HPS
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Tag isn’t quite correct, I’ll add it too, because I was loving both your stuff and hoping @tamimes would start their own grow journal so I could watch both!
I’ve got dreams of a similar grow in a few months to do selection and evaluation on stuff that I’m breeding. I did sprout 24 in 4" pots once, for a stress test, but that was the only time I’ve even come close.
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ya, keeps them from going to into hard veg. they have to come out of flower. i am holding off them from stretching all over the place.
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I gave chat GPT a summery of an update and asked it for a poem.
Riveting discourse in this space so dear,
Where thoughts entwine, conversation sincere.
For documentation’s sake, I shall veer,
Amidst seeds sown, the path is clear.
Eighteen seeds dormant, couldn’t bloom bright,
Eight odd ones culled, in fading light.
Twenty hours, light’s endless flight,
Then 12/12, the timing’s right.
Now fifteen days, the bloom takes stage,
A lone nut forms, amidst this sage.
Anticipating the cull’s decisive page,
Space for growth, in this flowered cage.
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Last 3 lines , very ominous. Herms maybe.
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I would absolute love to hear what gives you the ominous impression.
Blurry af and I was just showing the stems. But with that said I pinched off the lower branches on ALL of them. If you caught that; you have a damn good eye.
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