5H Club ♣ Half Full For 2019

5H Club :clubs: New Year Setups

Starting the New Year is the current flower group…


The SN is working week 4 and still scheduled for a Groundhog Day harvesting.
The Romberry continued to fill out and up. Since the other was pulled it will be allowed to spread out, and have given it a scrog topper. In flattening it down to the scrog level the taller branches have been spread to the edges and corners. Almost 2 weeks in, so there will be a bit more stretch, but is all upward.

Sweet Lemon pair are moving along. They’ve transplanted a few days now and
placed under the veg panel.


The Tahoe is a day behind this pair. Not as many nodes yet. Cover crop is buckwheat,
cilantro, oats (cat grass) and get cut back as necessary but roots spread rapidly.


Genetic Roundup (YouTube Provided)

  • SN - South Bay Kush x NoHi
    The South Bay Kush was from The BIGKUSH - Seven Leaf Genetics run of 2017. Gave all
    the seeds to someone to grow, but… Somewhere in the neighborhood an unknown party
    didn’t cull their male and one plant got dusted without affecting the two sisters. NoHi is
    for area (North Highlands) and that males won’t get you high. Rippers ended up with all
    the main colas but he gave me a bunch of seeds so decided to grow one out.

  • R1 - Romberry
    This was another won genetics from Local Grower Organics of plants he grew out last
    Summer. Planted two of them and didn’t force sexing and ended up with a male at the
    end of week 1 of flower. Stick to proceedure… First scrog - is more a training aid to
    keep things flat until week 4 when the stems turn woody and retain position.

  • S_1 & S_2 - Sweet Lemon x BBS3
    Part of a multi-mom plant grafting seed run project by Cannabis Origanum. The first
    pair of these showed sex in 24 days above soil. They were short and beefy with wide
    leaves and expect good things from theses.

  • Tahoe - Tahoe OG what more do I need to say…
    Won these from Bizego Innovations with the South Bay Kush in same drawing. Last
    year I grew out a pair of these so have an idea of grow pattern (or not). Felt it deserved
    another chance to contrast with berry overload this Spring.

Will get back to the in-house testing after these.

From the 5H Club :clubs: Happy New Year 2019

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5H Club :clubs: Short Week Long Haul

Not much change from the first for end of week update…


Bloom continues with SN 5 weeks in and working on the PK schedule. R_1 is at 2 weeks, still being tucked under but has reached the edges. Stacking at 2 weeks.

The seedlings are at the 2 week (above soil) mark and adjusted my calendar for under soil waits.


Elsewhere in the club house…


The cobs have been sweated… moist cured a week… dried overnight and sealed for cool cure 3 months.
Put checks for beginning of month and April target, but more for 4/20 sharing…

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5H Club :clubs: New Year Experiments

Will start with update of current activity… The three young ones have reached the 21 day
point where they will be flipped until they show what is needed to determine sex.


This one is very similar to the first run in height and is moving along fast.

Number 2 is only half the height of the first run, but closer to number 1 in development.
Possible female? will have to wait and see.

Tahoe is shortest of them all, but also technically a day younger. It should have a bit more
time in veg but will stay with the SL pair on schedule.

Moving into week 6 and 3. The Romberry is filling out and starting to turn woody. This week will
get in and clear out the large leaves. Moved the tubs into an open space for a week or so…


Have been watching brown spots on leaves, thinking was water damage or such.
Just coming out of it’s PK week but doesn’t look like nute burn. A couple weeks left at least.

Experiment: seed germination
Usual method is soak, paper towel in bag, cup of soil, tub of soil veg, etc…
Following along on live stream Jan 1st - saturate your media (soil, coco, etc) to squeezable
consistency (only a drop of run off). Fill a cup and plant seed directly into media.
Put in warm place with indirect air circulation and wait 5 days…

Ok… yeah it works… dropped a pair of the next tester beans into cups as directed and
5 days later plants were up. After 4 days one cup had all it’s oat cover crop but the second
only had a few sprout. The one with the cover crop had enough to hold a good root mass
to transplant hopefully before tap root was stunted on bottom of cup.

That plant was also a bit slower (not having shown second set of serrated leaflets) and
put it into the 2 gallon container the romberry male was taken from a couple weeks back.
Already set up for bloom, this will be final container for this plant, while the other is
done the regular way with a tub step between cup and flowering.


LITFA seed germination

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5H Club :clubs: Full Moon Shuffle

The Sweet Lemon & Tahoe haven’t shown anything after a week in the bloom space.



The preflowers are just forming and can see there is something there, just not clear detail yet.

They were all showing signs of hunger and will put them on the tea. Top dress at first, watered in.

Tahoe moving along, but a bit young at start so still catching up.

The scrog was designed to be movable, so took it out to play with for a while…
Trim a bit here… tuck a bit there… bit too woody to change squares anymore…


This position takes up too much real estate, but Romberry has the box mostly to itself soon.
The SN is day 50 and on the final countdown. The 3 here should sex out this week so the IV pair can
go in to have their shot at showing they want a spot.


Speaking of IV pair… they are at day 11 above soil and slotted into that 10 day window that
seems to be a common thread here, getting ready to have a bit more attention.

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Older leaves, some chlorosis, some necrosis, interveinal or blotchy but with some browning.

My first thought would be magnesium, although it could be Potassium.

If your medium has enough of those in it, then it is a PH issue.

As you are in soil, you just need a PH over 6.5 or so. I would check that first and if your PH is fine, just feed them. As they reach senescence they will naturally stop pulling nutrients and growth will slow but they should not show signs of a nutrient def like you have.

As you are not seeing a calcium def as well as magnesium, my suspicion is they are just hungry instead of there being a PH issue.

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Hungry is probably right. They haven’t had anything but teas.
Sometimes it’s top dressed and sometime water mixed first.
On the weekly charts it’s about half what is given as max levels.

The Sweet Lemon is same issue, the soil used at transplant to tub
was the same recycled amended used for the seedlings in cups.
They haven’t had anything but water and should have been giving
them the grow tea at week 2 per schedule.

The nice part is being able to individually dose the tea strengths
because they aren’t brewed up in large batches. Usually measure
dry mix into bottle, add premixed IPM dose, water to fill, shake…

IPM is SNS 209 for mite control, OHN (herbal medicine), still
adding Mammoth P until sample runs out. Anything extra goes
into mix so all plants get a relative sized dose.

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Nice job on those COBs. They should blow your mind :exploding_head:

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5H Club :clubs: Hump Day Happenings

They were taking their own sweet time so added a few heart pillows to put them in the mood…


Since the first picture was a spoiler… the SL_2 was a male… topped it to two nodes and will stay a bit.
Hanging on to it a couple weeks for possible experiments.


The Tahoe is still not there yet, the underside hasn’t bushed out, but still looks good.

And the Main Event

SL_1 had fine white hairs so a haircut was provided. The underside had nice growth, took the lowest two branches that would need trimmed later as clones, also took the 2 node above the topping point but below the main top. The lower clones should transition to veg during cloning process. The top section will revert and filled with hormones that will cause monstercropping style branching.

The IV pair are at day 16 and will move into the flower box on standard 21 day schedule to sex.
Later this week will transplant the SL_1 when I decide what size.
The first Sweet Lemon pair that were male set back the schedule.
Depending on next few weeks progress, SL1 will flip Valentine’s Day instead of Ground Hog day, and won’t be dried and ready for 4/20 (harvested but not fully cured).

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Busy farm you’ve got going! That romberry is looking really nice. How did you make your scrog screen float like that?

There are hooks on both sides and 2 on the back…
If the scrog hangs on 2 it supports itself on the PVC 3rd leg.
When on the side it’s a tighter fit as the back hook holds against the
wood rod running down the end.

Mostly it just sits on top of the plant long enough the branches get woody.

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I see. Do you just prop it up on the PVC or something when you take it out then?

5H Club :clubs: Closing In On Harvest Again

To answer @beacher when I take it out of the box it just sits there and
the pvc support doesn’t really touch the floor. The branches spread out and
upward are locking the grid into place.

Sweet Lemon got a topping earlier and today got the new container. Went with the 2 gallon fabric in a
plastic basket that’s been used for prior harvests. Filled with fresh soil mix and cover crop.


The Tahoe still hasn’t shown sex after two weeks, but it was a few days behind at start.
Those top leaves are pointing so hard every day and it’s right at the edge…

Both the IV pair are day 20 and have had 2 days in the box with extended hours in veg area.
Tomorrow they go in and stay until sexed. The A in large container has caught up and passed the
other.


The SN is still hanging out in the corner but not much longer. The Romberry has started showing signs of
hunger in week 5 and will step up the teas a level. I could remove the scrog, but it holds the branches out
and keeps the under level buds in play.

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5H Club :clubs: Tale of Two Tubs…

Two seedlings from the same batch, the smaller was put into a 1.7g container after germination in the cup. The other was put into the mid-stage soil conserving size with intention of transplant only if female.



After a week in the bloom box, IV_A is spread out the width of the larger container and the stem is twice as thick, upward it has reached the bottom of the scrog screen level but spread flat. Had a top shot that got munched.
While there is a bit of short pheno, IV_B just isn’t thriving and will be left to it’s own timing…

Not seeing any signs of sex after 18 days in bloom box. Have moved it back into the veg area and will let it resume it’s own timetable also in showing something interesting. The under growth isn’t showing much progress. Back burner.

Romberry is moving along, still fading in a few spots.
For comparison the sticker on the back wall is 4 inches high and lines up with the above scrog heights.
Took the tops of SN_1 at day 60, just the main colas, and will allow up to the Romberry harvest day to put on any additional weight if they are going to do anything at all…


You can see IV_A brushing up to the scrog boundary. Really hope it’s a female (and a wimp male) but am liking the structure and growth pattern the larger container is providing. The soil was left over from the Romberry male and was set up for bloom, with layered nutrient level and soil mix setup.

The Sweet Lemon has been topped and tied, right now they are held to the petioles with a velco tape loop that gets adjusted daily for right tension and branch placement.
Another two weeks when the Romberry is ready, this one should also be ready. The clones have taken and they will sit in veg until their turn.

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5H Club :clubs: Clone Method 5P

There was a request of cloning method pictures, so here’s some clips on current transplant…


After 9 days on the shelf they were ready. Once you take them out of the bag they cool down quickly.

These are the Sweet Lemon clones taken after sexing and before transplant at first topping.

A set of nested tubs, one with bottom holes for drainage, keeps humidity up and light low.

The semi transparency of the Popsicle holder lets you know if roots have formed. The tapered diameter hold pressure on the stem and helps wring moisture from the puck.

There is a rock in the bottom of them to hold the puck at about the right height so you don’t push it too far down, and a hole in the bottom to allow properly deployed chop stick to push puck up and out.

A prescription bottle was buried as a placeholder in the soil. This container was used in a harvest, Planted with a cover crop that was allowed to grow for a while then trimmed off and went fallow.

The bottle left a hole that accepts the puck well, it is a bit deep for those cases where there is a bit too much stretch/stem. This one small and new cover crop is just starting.

For the first day or so will get a cup with moisture, then same cup with slits, then none…
Planted the 2 smallest in the pair of these, the larger clone was taken from the top part of the plant and has a much larger stem. Since it rooted at an angle in the puck, it shall be buried in an orientation so that it stands up correctly. Not yet transplanted…

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5H Club :clubs:Tired Of Scratching My Balls

The two IV testers both turned out to be male.


The Brute turned out so dense in 35 days. The petioles of the largest fans turned woody in the first week and in a couple places snapped off at the knuckle on the main stem. Trimmed them off in a spiral training to allow inside branching to extend. The ribs on the main stem were pronounced. This is noted in the pheno guide on this set.

Dropped a pair of Starkiller x BB3 from same source as the Sweet Lemon cross.
Also dropped another pair of the Chocolope. The previous were no shows, but this time got the bonus extra special TRIPLE whirl genetic jackpot. Have had a couple in the past but none have made it past sexing stage.

SL_1 is approaching the 21 day flip window and will get 3 days of bloom strength lighting before it is flipped on Valentine’s Day (or the night cycle thereof).

The clones had a bit of time to start liking their new setups. The Tahoe just isn’t doing much, it was a couple days later showing sex and was put into the container the third SL clone used (didn’t thrive so booted).

For the moment the SL_1 is sharing the veg space for it’s morning and sunset extra hours.

When in the bloom box, it isn’t quite up to the scrog level yet, but the tips are all pointed in that direction and going much longer in veg starts crowding the grow quadrant as clones and sexing continues around it.


Somewhere my mental math went wonky and instead of a Valentine harvest, it gets pushed off a bit until Presidents Day (US) when it reaches 60 days. Fading away but LITFA is in charge…

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5H Club :clubs: Working Without Annette

The Brute didn’t use up much of the goodies in the big container. A couple of swift knife strokes around where the cup would have been inserted and pull.


The main root was beefy and still only about cup depth. Just under the surface had a nice spread from the top feedings possibly. Cup size hole needs a cup to hold for the next round and will see who gets the spot.


Valentine’s Day and Romberry is finishing up so removed the scrog grid. The branches were holding it in place with a slight inward pressure of the larger colas. Moving them a bit in sequence the grid came off in a minute or two.


Removed a majority of the fading leaves, mostly any fan leaf with a petiole stem large enough to see. This will help with trimming at harvest hopefully. Could have cut it, but will wait until I have time to enjoy it.

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5H Club :clubs: Room To Spare

The Romberry no longer dominates the bloom area with it’s bulky headgear.


The SL_1 (Sweet Lemon cross) had a trim and tie down session and will probably need it again in another week just to keep the canopy open. It’s at the level just below the scrog line and will keep an eye on further training.

Star_1 (Starkiller cross) and the Chocolopes are day 12ish above soil.

The other Chocolope (Triple Blade Runner) is in the large container so photos not done same way.

But you can see it hanging out in the back corner. The Tahoe and SL clone pair are starting to get some training, but the Tahoe is getting a bit woody. Not sure what will get run next…

Working on a Mug Sip project for seedlings. The 3.75 inch net pot rests nicely in the top of the mug, leaving an inch or more space below to act as reservoir and wick the water as needed. Am hoping to eliminate the ‘tub’ stage between solo cups and flowering container. Have a second set slightly larger (5 inch) but no res for them yet.

Romberry in jars (more than expected) and SN has been in jars almost 20 days and slowly sampled…
Rainy day bud shots this week unless consumption prevents…

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Like the mug SIP :+1::seedling:

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5H Club :clubs: Marti Gras Movements

The youngest have been moved into the main box for a few days adjustment to the light levels, they still get a veg spot until day 21 for extra hours of light.


The Chocolope with the triple branching adjusted itself and is now back at opposing presentations. The larger container (haven’t had a female in it yet) does seem to give a bit more vigorous growth than the smaller tubs.


The first Chocolope and the Starkiller cross are moving along. Need to see if it’s the recycled soil in the tubs, but they don’t match up with vigor of past runs using this method.

The sips both popped up above soil in 5 days direct planting to soil. The mug already had it’s first roots out the bottom. The amount of felt wick may need to be adjusted, they are a bit moist, the BEE even more so as there is less air gap below the cup.

The veg area is less crowded without the C3Po large container. Continuing to veg out the Tahoe and clones. When the youngsters show sex and open up the area will move the Tahoe and probably SL_c1 into bloom.

:white_check_mark: Checking up on old projects…


The cob cure is in the second month and been opened to dry a bit. 24 hours and they were still moist so giving them an additional 24 before being vacuum sealed again. About a gram is missing (sample) when it drys will experiment.

Rainy day projects…

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5H Club :clubs: What Was I Waiting For???

Whole lotta LITFA happening while sampling the Romberry and prior harvests.
The MugGrow Sips are moving right along…



This was during the first week of action… and roots are developing rapidly…


The first one was topped not long after the previous photo about 4 days ago and already spreading out and pushing up for the next training session.
The ones waiting on sex have all come in FEMALE this round.


The two tubbed ones are track with previous runs (as far as I remember) putting on a bit of height (no too much) and starting the development of lower branching.
But the third…

This one is a beast, the lower sets are already throwing cola style formations. It is the same age as the ones in tubs but was given the big pot after cup germination. Since it seems happy will top it and run bloom in same container.


Sweet Lemon cross at 4 weeks is stacking the buds and a bit more tightly packed than planned but fine. The underside was cleaned up a bit.

Will be choosing one from the veg to flower. When Sweet Lemon gets harvested will be 4 week point and ready for something else from veg to continue cycle.

Might have slacked off the last couple weeks… let the experiments begin…

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