Anybody got the Kentucky Ditch-Weed?
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You know;;
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The good ole “Western Red-Eye”?
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“Midwest Cottonmouth”?
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“American Rope-Dope”?
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I would call an American Landrace…
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Anyone working with it?
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@Pigeonman i was wondering the validity of Kentucky red hair…(in relation)
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Looking for some grungy/dirty looking hemp and not so much the “worked” lines personally
I have no idea @way4out , but I wanted to share with you a thread that may help you with your quest!
@Pigeonman looks like I may be needing to take a roadtrip when I get wheels
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Am still hoping someone says they have a patch on their property they can’t control
What about your Florida Ditch Weed?
there’s a bunch of wv ditch weed growing in some places i know of. i forgot who else knew of them also.
@sfzombie13 i am interested 100%
Out of curiosity, why that stuff? I’m pretty sure its literal hemp.
Cool to know someone else is interested in these genetics. I was looking into ditch weed some years ago. Although never got around to making the fall trip myself. I came across reports as far south as Texas, as far north as Ontario and every state in between them. IMO I tracked down the most consistent place to find it was Nebraska, specifically the old railroad hubs in Lincon and Freemont.
Side note, both Nebraska and Kansas have taken wild hemp off the noxious weed list as it has become a necessity to the native bird populations diet.
Another fun fact, now that I’m rambling. Remember when the government use to post numbers of all those weed plants they eradicated in the war on drugs? The majority of that was wild feral hemp.
@Calcium_Enriched1996
To be honest I’ve always been fascinated by the landrace stuff;
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As well;
Most landrace genetics
generally fall under dual purpose usage
as far as smoke and utility;
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As it is literally Hemp of old; this bridge is more close to the lines of more old school /landrace/ dual purpose hemp (I could only presume) ;
As well;
acclimated to USA regions.
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I intend to work a hybridized medicinal line of hempxganja riding as close to 50/50;
And
Would love the opportunity to work with the long-untampered lines of American “hemp” if you really want to look at that way;
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I consider it a landrace ;
Regardless;
It is
Old
And the most untampered
known
Line of American Cannabis
To date
George Washington would be proud!
up around cranberry glades, about 3 hours from where i live. used to be old ww2 training grounds too, still a sign about unexploded munitions in some places. they used to grow hemp for rope.
From my dive into the subject these feral lines were derived from plants once regulated for THC. Sence then they have gone unregulated, obviously. Some recent, but limited tests I came across I believe reported THC values up to 5% on some samples. So, I think you’re right on the money comparing these to other multipurpose lines.
I would definitely consider this landrace. To give some comparison, these have been growing feral for just as long of a time as Morrocco has been producing cannabis.
The FLA Ditch weed is prob a cultivar washed ashore during the “Square Grouper” years which is why I didn’t mention it.
I have some Missouri feral hemp seeds I collected in NWMO in the wild. I have not grown them or tried them for any medicinal use. Not sure of any cannabinoid content but they were a little bit frosty in september and the seeds seemed mature when I collected them.
You’re making me suddenly gain an interest in locating some American ditch weed near me! I’ll have to lurk here some more
if you have a link to any reference you used i’d like to read it as well. the reason being i’m pretty sure it’s wrong, at least for the ones i’m talking about. the reason they test with some thc is simple: guerilla grows of high thc pot contaminating the hemp. not that i’m right and you’re wrong, it just makes a lot more sense that the govt grew hemp and it went feral and got contaminated than the govt growing pot for thc.
I’m just going off memory. I dove into the subject a little over a decade ago. The internet changed a lot since then. Files and photos I saved even the computers I used are long gone.
It’s probably best not to think of this as just one line. Different lines were being grown in different states and regions. I remember reading about one enthusiast at that time whose breeding was specifically focused on the ornamental aspects. There is likely a good amount of variation between these plants over the vast area these plants inhabit.
You brought up a good point. I do remember people trying to hide their grow among the feral hemp. That could definitely play a part in the development of these lines.
But on one hand, if something controlled is left uncontrolled for a long period of time, you can’t expect it to stay the same as it once was.
(Imagine if a large group of white tigers were set loose. I think the once controlled breeding that maintained the tigers white appearance, would go out the window. Over time, the genetics would likely get so widespread that we would start seeing regular tigers again.)
Genetics are funny and complicated. I’ve seen a batch of stable autos being grown out, one of which popped out to be a photo dependent. I’ve seen that in reverse as well, a photo dependent line that randomly threw an auto. A broad leaf line randomly throws a narrow leaf pheno. I’ve had a batch of freak show throw a single nonmutant. These were all visibly apparent, but this can happen on a chemical level too. I used to have a cut of Aliens on Moonshine, a general high THC modern line but this specific cut tested high in CBD low THC. I ran across a grower with a Qurkle that displayed a similar high CBD low THC expression.
Also to take into consideration, I’m unfamiliar with the practices of THC testing from the late 30s through the 40s. Today we generally test samples of trimmed seedless flower clusters taken after harvest and tested using high performance liquid chromatography or gas chromatography. The samples taken in the past may have contained more leaf material, seed and even fiber. The samples may have been taken at a different point in the plants life and possibly tested using a different method of testing.
I think the best solution is for people to get out there and collect samples from different states/regions and get these tested. We might see that what were once thought to be zero THC lines using the methods of testing in the past, hold a higher THC value using the testing methods of today. Or at least variations between them.
@Monst3rbean that is an excellent response and makes sense 100%.
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My biggest question is
Why would anybody
plant their high THC Ganja
next to a patch of Feral Hemp?
like ever in history?
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A field of corn makes sense…
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But ganja in a pot field is highly unlikely…
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