Na, these are both from seed and has been a thing from fairly early on. The fruity pheno exhibits the droop much less so might be that as well.
Everything is still stacking up nicely so I’m not really worried. It’s just that now I have more than my wife to impress 
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I love the pics looking up! 
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The watering in a large bed would have me nervy too, I feel like it’s a whole new learning curve in that volume of soil, never mind not being able to lift the pots and check that way. I’d go with @minitiger and say water her, maybe 1/2 what you normally would and see if it perks things up a little? If it does it might indicate she could use more to drink vs. if she drools harder it might show that she’s a little over drunk? That’s how I’d be trying to figure it out in your shoes anyway
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Yeah that’s the one thing I’m a bit concerned with once I get my 2x4 bed set up. I bought a cheap moisture meter on amazon… but haven’t really gotten a reading beyond super dry from it. Either I keep everything super dry or I haven’t figured it out haha. It will be a learning curve for sure - I usually weigh everything using a scale to keep track of watering… it’s the best way for me to not overthink things. I always second guessed myself with the lift the pot method 
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i do that on the regular. for this run i feel like ive got a good feel for it, and a good rhythm, but i feel like i have to re-learn with every single run. im a classic over-thinker as well so i find myself sitting in front of the tent scratching my head a lot. i feel like getting accustomed to the bed would mean a lot more sitting and scratching.
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Personally I love my moisture meter probe. It is great to know the moisture level of the top middle and bottom of my bed so I can make a decision from there. My water application rate definitely changes from beginning veg to late veg to beginning flower to half way/end of flower.
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Which meter do you use? The one I got was like 8$ on amazon and I haven’t figured it out yet… might have something to do with needing to remove the tip’s oxide layer… idk!
i know the one BAS offers is wicked long and can supposedly be calibrated to the proper moisture level of your bed so that it reads relative to the ideal moisture level that you set for it. sounds complicated to me but im sure you get the hang of it after a while.
I know y’all are going to be like, here he goes again with the SIP talk, but SIPs take watering out of the equation. The soil stays moist top to bottom. 30 gal SIPs from what I have read are the limit, but once those roots hit the reservoir they take the fuck off! As @nube said “ SIPs are the way, the truth, and the light!”
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Here he goes with the SIPS again
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i loved my moisture meter, then i loved the one i got after the first one broke, then i loved the one i got after the second broke. now i give up 
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i scratch a lot Legs! Pretty happy with my schedule normally.
This is another challenge of having more than one plant in a bed as well, they all are different , just like kids.
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adds a whole 'nother layer of complexity to the situation
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Dude, besides the dusty crumbly brick and mortar, the flooding is what has kept me out of the basement until this season. We found a cheap (and fucking hilarious) local mason to come put up wire mesh and stucco to stabilize it, and he patched a bunch of foundation holes too. But really I needed a full year to see how the basement floods to figure out where the tents could go and stay dry, luckily for me that’s right next to the furnace and water heater 
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do you have a sump Dirt?
the last straw for me was when I had 4 feet of water. everything got ruined, so I had to have some foundation specialist company come dig out the perimeter and put a sump/frenchdrain etc.
Of course then I sold the house, lol, the way it goes.
My new property is on a perfect grade though, walkout sliding door is bomb. no chance this one will flood.
Best of luck down there!
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No sump, but we don’t flood that hard. We’re in a river valley flatland so there’s not much sideways drainage, and the previous owner of our house hadn’t done anything to improve drainage around the yard in many decades, so we get an inch or two of water in parts of the basement during any major rainstorm. Hopefully trenching the circumference of the foundation this spring and putting down a channel of gravel will help, but we’re thinking about going full French drains in the yard.
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Sounds like you have a plan. yeah, my old place was in sort of a bowl and I was in the bottom of it so it all trickled down to my property.
I have a whole new set of guidelines while looking for property now
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Just thought this was a cool pic, update coming later this weekend.
The two phenos side by side…
Frutti pheno on the right
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What’s up Fam! Hope everyone had a great week!
Update for Day 49 Flower
Overall everything is truckin along nicely.
I finished stringing up the required areas of the canopy for now.
Also moved one of the monkey fans under the canopy to improve airflow.
I gave the bed 9 gallons of water on Wednesday with a little BioPhos and Enzyme Elixir. No run off but the bottom seems are wet so we have full saturation!
Everything perked up except the older fan leafs on the one pheno. Figure at this point it’s age and just the way this pheno expressed herself…
Piney pheno
Frutti pheno
The TrainWreck also is starting to finish nicely.
Getting some great purple coming in, this ones going to be a rainbow I think.
The bottom buds are the biggest besides the top, I am thinking this is due to the overspray when watering, I usually do not have buds this close to the soil. The whole plant is super dense. Looking forward to having this sampler…
I got the scope out tonight to check out some trichomes. Mostly cloudy already it appears, I also see a few amber. Will check around again next week but right now I’m thinking they may not go as long as I originally thought…
Tonight they got a top watering of 2 gallons with half dose of coconut powder.
The flying rove beetles started to drive me nuts so got a few tablespoons full of mites from the worm bin in hopes they stick around the soil bed with more food.
Pretty sure they have taken over and I need to rebalance the population somehow.
I would also like to introduce Bertha to the fam,
Fully worked JBD Brazil Mini, pretty stoked on her. She Glug Glug’s!..
That’s it for now y’all, I’ll be hangin with the girls and Bertha for a little while, come on in , I’m packin.
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