Ah, okay, cool. I can’t deal with IG haha, but I can for sure deal with headiegardens. I guess I’ll just keep my eyes peeled.
Unless somebody wants to give me a head’s-up when they get released winkwinkknudgeknudge haha…
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I don’t think that’ll be a problem around here.
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Outer Limits smoke report:
Looks:
Same nug, different angles. And I was even capable of getting one decent “no flash” pic, too haha. That nug weighed 5.1 grams, so pretty decent density on these flowers, if you’re into that sorta thing.
Smell: There’s something super-familiar about this one, but I can’t put my finger on it. It’s definitely not Sour Diesel that I’m smelling, though haha. It’s like a mossy, “forest floor” kind of smell, with some added “sourness,” like sour milk/sour cream/yogurt, maybe? I can’t put my finger on it, but it does smell good. It just doesn’t smell like SD at all haha. It reminds me of some other weed smell that I know and have known for, like, an eternity haha.
Maybe it’s just that classic “dank weed smell” smell, I dunno. It’s good, though.
Flavor: I’m thinking the flavor is leaning way more to the AfPak side of this cross rather than the Sour Diesel side. It’s mostly just “hash,” reminds me a lot of the way that that Ancient OG x AfPak from the last grow tasted. There’s the slightest bit of sourness on the front end, but it’s just a tease haha. The first hit I took, the first time I blazed it, I thought,“Oh, shit, maybe we have something here…” but literally one second later, I was like,“Oh… Never mind…” haha. Definitely not any sort of “true” Sour Diesel flavors to it. Maybe the longer it cures, the more pronounced that “first-second flavor” will become, but I doubt it. It’s been in jars for like six seeks now, if not longer.
High: This one actually reminds me of the Blueberry x Silver Lotus, in that it’s not the strongest or the most overpowering or whatever, but it’s still a very satisfying high. That’s where the comparison ends, though haha. Like the flavor, the high reminds me of the AOG x AfPak, but more enjoyable. That AOG cross was way too cerebral for me during the first hour and had way too heavy of a comedown in the second. This Outer Limits plant is still an alert high in the beginning, the first hour or so, but without any of the fucking “I can’t stop thinking! I can’t stop thinking!!!” aspects of the AOG cross. It’s way more mellow and enjoyable. Still functional, though, for sure.
The second hour does get a little draggy. It’s compelled me to take a nap more than once haha and I can definitely smoke it before getting ready for bed and fall asleep no problem. I’m not sure how much the time change has had to do with that, but I’ve for sure been tired/lazy more often than not an hour or so after smoking this one.
Just as an aside, I always think it’s funny when people get all stoked about daylight savings and,“Oooh! We get an extra hour of sleep!” I mean, maybe YOU get an extra hour of sleep, but daylight savings for me just means I wake up an hour earlier than normal. Instead of 5:30am, I’m wide awake at 4:30 in the fucking morning every morning for two weeks haha.
Anyway, yeah, this is good weed. It’s not what I was looking for, as far as flavors are concerned (or high, either, for that matter), but there’s always room in my jars for some pleasant, mellow, good-time flowers. It’s been a nice compliment to the Imperial Majesties, too, as far as “getting ready for bed smoke” is concerned. I usually only grow one of those types of strains (if I can help it); now I’ve got two, I guess haha. But I’ll continue to check these seeds out, just because I do think there’s something in them worth searching for.
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Sounds pretty appealing dude, I always look forward to your smoke reports. Cheers bud
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Yeah, it’s good weed, I don’t feel like I wasted my time growing it or anything haha. I was really hoping to find that Sour Diesel flavor, though, and I didn’t, so… What can you do? Plant more seeds, I guess.
I think there’s good odds of finding something like that in the Sour Diesel x Dragon Energy I planted last week, especially when you take into account the genetics that make up that Dragon Energy male that Doc uses. My only fear is that I’m gonna find multiple DE-leaning plants haha, as far as the high is concerned. I didn’t love that one DE-leaning C. Gold cross I grew a while back (although my friends seemed to enjoy it), but the C. Gold-leaner was excellent. The fact that I was able to find one C. Gold-dominant plant out of only two females gives me high hopes that maybe that DE male isn’t so dominant in crosses. You know, like Bodhi’s GHash male is haha.
How’s everything going with you? I saw you were having some (non-growing) issues on your thread. Everything getting better?
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Yea man, things are slowly getting back on track I think, just a bunch of life shit, you know how that’ll just creep up on you and smack you in the back of the head. Hope you find what you’re looking for in those DE crosses, i tried out some DE crosses from a local breeder a yea or so ago but couldn’t keep up well with their nutrient needs so I ended up bailing JJ em before flowering them out, tempted to go back though after seeing all the work doc has done with it, even though I know the selection from this other guys will likely be different
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If your able to get an email address or something by any chance it would be very much appreciated by the ones of us with no instagram!! Please and thank you.
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Ah shoot. That puts my Black Friday shopping $$ in jeopardy
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This is from the Headiegardens discord server.
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Haha whoops, or the ones without that also!
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You could try emailing shoe@headiegardens.com to see if u can place a pre-order.
Or get discord and I’ll try to get an invite link to shoe’s server.
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Thank you very much I will shoot him an email. I hope he responds!
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Sweet! Thanks, dude! I don’t do discord, so I guess I’ll just wait for when they’re released on the site or maybe email him via headies.
$100 for fifteen seeds isn’t bad, I guess I’ll just get one pack. That Shoreline cross sounds intriguing, too, but I’ll probably skip that.
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You have any experience with Shoreline? I’ve only ever heard about it but don’t really know anything about it.
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@minitiger what is your method and application rate for using essential oils for ipm sprays?
I need to do a precautionary mite and mildew treatment in my clone tent after bringing some outdoor cutting of the china cangshan into my veg and clone tent. I quarantined them for two week and did a spinosad treatment and a neem treatment.
But I definitely want to treat everything in there because I have a lot of ethiopian clones that just took root and are in a very vulnerable phase.
I just pruned all the clones, the fresh growth looks good. Some of the leaves I removed were looking shabby. it was probably just the old damaged stressed out leaves left over from before the plants took root and put out fresh growth, but I saw a few marks on some leaves that looked vaguely like mite or thrip damage.
What oils do you use?
I have thyme, rosemary and lavender. Normally I would just use neem, but I don’t have any right now.
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Add some Dr. Bronners Soap and an Oz per gal alcohol along with those oils. Spray daily at lights out. You will need to be persistent. Good luck.
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No, never grown it, just read about it. I do have a couple packs of Shoreline’s (the breeder, not the strain) Sour Diesel bx3, which utilized some sorta Shoreline male. I ordered them before doing any research, which isn’t something I ordinarily do, and then researched afterwards. The plants in the threads I saw did not look like Sour Diesel to me. Smell/flavor descriptions didn’t sound Sour Diesel-ish, either. Which means, maybe, that that cross leans Shoreline? I dunno.
In any event, I’m not in a big hurry to get to those seeds haha, but I figure I’ve got some kinda Shoreline cross in the fridge already, probably don’t need to get another one. But I might…
I use a half-teaspoon of rosemary and peppermint essential oils per gallon of water, along with a tablespoon of neem and a half-teaspoon of potassium silicate. I’m sure you know this, but the K silicate is an emulsifier; like Windy said, you can use that Dr. Bronner’s instead. I like using the K silicate because of the benefits to the plants. And I’ve never added alcohol to my sprays (that’s reserved for my gullet haha)(I’m kidding! I don’t drink fucking rubbing alcohol. Yet… haha).
It seems to work well as long as you do it relatively regularly. The plants that got it once a week until the second week of flower during this last grow didn’t have any issues with pests at all. But I slacked on it for the three females that were planted 19 days after those other plants and they for sure got thrips or something.
I’m not sure how much genetics played a part in that, though. The “older” plants that didn’t show any pest damage were the Purple Corinto x A5Thai and Bodhi’s Dread Bread and Imperial Majesty, along with one ECSD x Chem. All of those got pretty regular IPM treatments. The “younger” plants were another ECSD/Chem, Doc’s Outer Limits and Iamyou’s Blueberry x Silver Lotus, which I think only got like three or four treatments. It would make sense to me that the Dread Breads and the Purple Corinto would maybe be more naturally pest-resistant, considering their sorta “landrace” status/hybrid vigor/whatever haha. And we all know that Bodhi’s done a lot of stress-testing with the GHash male he used in the Imperial Majesty cross. But strains like Sour Diesel, ECSD and Blueberry seem to me to be something that might be more prone and susceptible to pests/pathogens etc.
Although, to be honest, it was really only the ECSD x Chem (the younger one) that showed a lot of pest damage at the end. The older one was showing it real early on in veg, like day 30, maybe. Both of those plants seemed like pest magnets pretty much right from the get-go. I don’t think that that male that Skunk VA uses imparts any sorta pest/pathogen resistance at all. The BB x SL and the Outer Limits were showing a little damage near the end, but nothing like the younger ECSD cross that was planted at the same time.
Anyway… What was the question? Haha…
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Got an email back from Shoe. He said check discord… looks like we may be out of luck, unless they hit the website…
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Dog posted that, uh, post from SHOE that said half the packs would be available for early ordering or whatever via discord, which means the other half will be available when they’re released on the site. I’ll just wait until then. If I miss out, I miss out. I’ll live. I’m not joining fucking discord. I dunno how these people do it, with the IG and the OG and the FB and the RIU and the discord and the TikTok and the dozens and dozens of different apps and social media sites and shit…
I’m not interested in staring at my fucking phone all day.
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