No, I was just thinking about that Appalachia male (Green Crack x Tres Dawg) since TheLazyHippie (gawd, that feels wrong to type haha) asked. I wouldn’t expect the GC to “shine through” in any hybrid of a hybrid, pretty sure that wasn’t even Bodhi’s intention with that The Fuzz. I think the Appalachia was just known to be a good male so people used it.
I was just saying that, of the few Appalachia crosses I’ve grown, The Fuzz seemed to exhibit some GC influences while they were growing. That’s all.
It’s just inherently going to show more Chem traits than GC because it was worked/BX’d a few times for those traits to come through in outcrosses. The GC hasn’t been worked, and for all we know, GC could have recessive traits, so it will get overpowered when outcrossed to Chemdawg that has been outcrossed, then selected male(s) for Chemdawg traits, and hit back to the Chemdawg mom twice. @HolyAngel has grown a bunch of Appy crosses, and he says that he’s found a lot more Chemdawg traits than GC. My experience is limited, but just knowing that the CD has been worked the way it has, it will be dominant. Sometimes I think the ones B describes are the standout plants to look out for, and not necessarily par for the course
I would agree with that as far as plant morphology is concerned, maybe, but I wouldn’t say the same for the smoke that’s produced from those crosses. The Fuzz, yeah, that shit was, like I said, absolutely crushing, ridiculously strong. Although some people would probably really love that, I’d never grow it again (actually sent the rest of those seeds to somebody a few years ago)(they know who they are haha!).
However, the Mountain Temples didn’t smoke anything at all like The Fuzz. That’s some of my favorite weed ever and I look forward to planting more of those seeds. I actually did plant more of them a while back, but my soil mix was gnarly at the time, only one outta five survived and that plant turned out male, so… I’m gonna plant some more at some point pretty soon, though.
Like everything else, I think it just depends on the genetic combination or whatever. Some plants turn out one way, some turn out the other and some turn out totally unexpected. I don’t think anybody should be making blanket statements about anything, especially not f1’s of polyhybrids. I mean, who knows? If I’d have ended up with five The Fuzz females instead of just two, maybe I woulda found something killer that I enjoyed just as much as the three Mountain Temples that I grew.
I’ve said this many times, but it’s a crap shoot. It’s always a crap shoot. If you’re looking for Green Crack leaners (not YOU specifically @VAhomegrown), grow a bunch of those crosses out and find the GC leaners. There’s gotta be some in there somewhere. Maybe you’ll have to f2 it and work those plants to f3 etc etc, I dunno.
Yea different plants will inherit or exude different traits when outcrossed. It’s def all a crapshoot haha. I’d love to find GC leaners, but ideally I’d like to find the clone, and use a GC x BSHW male (maybe an F2 if Jinglepot comes through with those seeds… Still havent heard from him) to make a BX, and then keep working it from there. Why is the GC cut so fucking hard to find lol. Being on the east coast doesn’t help either
He still makes seeds, but good luck finding the dude. I got some MOB x Crockett’s Blood Orange that he made by trading for them. I saw some thing on Dagga about a year or so ago that was fundraising for him because he got arrested or some shit? I dunno. I’d love to be able to follow what he’s doing though.
And that’s just one of the great things about growing weed… it ain’t like popping a pack of Burpee’s peas, more like Forest’s box of chocolates.
I really like the few Appy crosses I’ve grown, SSDD, Mother’s Milk, Blueberry Hill. I’m not a Snow Lotus, go figure, it’s pretty subjective… or I just have no taste, lol!
I wish I knew what green crack or tres dawg, or anything other good homegrown weed, tasted like, Much less their effects. Prohibition sucks.
Maybe H&L would let it go, or trade for it. I would love to have it.
I found a lot of that functional daytime high from the GC in a bunch of the F2’s of appy crosses, but nothing just like GC or anything. Like has been said, lot of chem leaners.
@minitiger that The Fuzz was like that because of the chem91. She reliably passes on that crushing potency. crossing to Appalachia would just reinforce it ^^. But most of the appy crosses are not like that at all, f1 or otherwise.
Heard in a recent interview on breeders syndicate with high and lonesome that bodhi selected a male that was a creamy chem. H&L preferred the more mango candy green crack phenos but due to bodhi popularizing it with the creamy chem, he tried to include both phenos in his newest release.
That’s all that matters! Who fucking cares?!? Haha. If you like it, you like it. Fuck everybody else.
Oh yeah, I know why… I certainly didn’t think it was because of the Green Crack in that cross haha.
Probably for the same reasons we were discussing re Sour Diesel last week: trends + legalization/mass consumption + dipshit “breeders.”
Don’t ever underestimate the power of social media to influence people who know nothing and don’t really care to know, either haha. The majority of consumers will buy whatever they’re told to buy.
Also, to keep this on topic, I believe this is the pre-93 that bodhi used in his bubba crosses. I found some old discussion on Breedbay or in a potcast…I forget which…about him using the cut they’re calling pre-93 or whatever.
I disagree with people who think the Appy is dominant across the board. My experience is that Appy crosses using OG moms get the feminine profiles, but you will still find a good mix of phenos. I’ve found the place the Appy male comes out frequently is in crosses using more sativa moms, but that’s…just like…my opinion, man.
I did the poll first.
Then when it was obvious how popular it was as an F2 preservation candidate, i did research and found out more about it.
I would’ve donated any one of the other packs but Hollyweed got the most votes.
I like your style but imo the “pre93” name makes no sense tho?
The only “bubba” plant from then, according to most the stories out there, would be the Bubba, an NL plant. No kush. The kush cross that made the Bubba Kush clone should be the pre98, from everything I’ve seen
Regardless I agree whatever the name is, it is the same cut bodhi used
My best recommendation is to try Dojo Nursery, Stoned Ninja is supposed to maybe have the original or best remaining Green Crack cut from what I just found digging around forums and IG:
That last pic of the live Bubba plant looks sooo similar to the very last batch of Bubba that I ever bought (which also happens to be the best Bubba I ever bought haha), eleven or twelve years ago, with those almost eggplant-purple leaves and calyces and the wiry, very orange pistils.
How’d she turn out, smells/flavors-wise? How’d she smoke?
but imo the “pre93” name makes no sense tho?
